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Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Jun 9^th, 2013 at 5:19pm

Apparently Shorten is under pressure to change to Rudd. Shorten is essentially the only thing keeping her in, as he commands about 7 votes. One of my sources tells me that the current numbers are about 54-47 in Gillard's favour, so which this space over the coming days. I hope that she stays, though, because she's the Coalition's best asset.

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #1 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 5:22pm

matty, what does it matter? Surely your sources also conclude that regardless, if the Coalition switches to you as their leader, then this election and many more futures ones will be sealed and delivered, You'll only leave office on your own terms. Because you are a man of the people. So say I. So say your sources. So say the Australian people

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Reply #3 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 5:26pm

Yep, as Alvine says if Labor pull the switch arroo to Rudd the Libs already have Matty up their sleeve. Labor have no chance against a Liberal led coalition under the guidance of Matty. The dogs of Australia will be celebrating with Pal tonight at the prospect of same sex marriage between humans and dogs, all as a result of a Matty led coalition.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd. Reply #4 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 5:27pm Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 5:23pm: Matty knows. Mattys canine lover is friends with Shortens canine, hence all of Mattys inside info.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd. Reply #5 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:01pm Matty your source, is that a Greens office near the shops?
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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #6 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #7 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:56pm

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

Who says Labor would lose under Rudd?

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #8 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:57pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:56pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

Who says Labor would lose under Rudd?

who said he would win

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #9 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:56pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

Who says Labor would lose under Rudd?

Exactly.
Seems the conservatives are nervous about Rudd's Return.
Rudd is highly intelligent and would run rings around tony head punched abbott in an election campaign.

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #10 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:03pm

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:56pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

Who says Labor would lose under Rudd?

who said he would win

You said he would lose, evidence? Because most polls on the subject put him in a winnable position. So ,Ill ask again, you said he would lose, how do you know?

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #11 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:04pm

veteran ABC reporter Barry Cassidy, who has contacts on both sides of parliament, said he believes Labor will change leader before the election. But he didn't say if he thought Rudd would be the one taking over.

My question is, if Rudd stands and loses the election, will he remain opposition leader after the election?

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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #12 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:06pm

____ wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:56pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

Even with Rudd in the chair - it's too late for Labor

Question
(1) Why would he take the leadership before the election if he knows they will lose
(2) Why would he take on the leadership after the election when the double dissolution is still hanging over their heads

Anyone taking on the leadership now will take a double whammy

Who says Labor would lose under Rudd?

Exactly.
Seems the conservatives are nervous about Rudd's Return.
Rudd is highly intelligent and would run rings around tony head punched abbott in an election campaign.

The majority of the population are hanging out for someone they respect to vote for. Rudd seem s to fit the bill for many of them. I believe he could defiantly beat Abbott. Funny thing is, personally I'm not a fan of his, but I recognise he sh it's on Abbott as a leader.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd. Reply #13 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:06pm HA! Just as I was writing the above post, Barry Cassidy on ABC news just said Gillard has lost a significant block of support - and that his sources in the caucus say there is only one person considered to take over - and thats Rudd. Looks like its on now...
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Re: Shorten may be shifting to Rudd.
Reply #14 - Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 9^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

veteran ABC reporter Barry Cassidy, who has contacts on both sides of parliament, said he believes Labor will change leader before the election. But he didn't say if he thought Rudd would be the one taking over.

My question is, if Rudd stands and loses the election, will he remain opposition leader after the election?

Why? Does it matter if he stays opposition leader? Would Abbott stay opposition leader if he loses?

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