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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #135 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:23am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

The first thing Abbott should do is remove Australia from the UN Convention yes.

It does nothing to benefit Australia.

I'll bet you both my houses that he doesn't.

Two cardboard boxes - not much of a wager from you.

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Reply #136 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:28am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

The first thing Abbott should do is remove Australia from the UN Convention yes.

It does nothing to benefit Australia.

I'll bet you both my houses that he doesn't.

Two cardboard boxes - not much of a wager from you.

I'll bet anything you like.

He won't do it. Simple.

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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #137 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

The first thing Abbott should do is remove Australia from the UN Convention yes.

It does nothing to benefit Australia.

I'll bet you both my houses that he doesn't.

Two cardboard boxes - not much of a wager from you.

I'll bet anything you like.

He won't do it. Simple.

He won't do it

but he's too stupid to realise that there's a lot more people seeking asylum in 2013 than in the Howard era.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #138 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:33am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

shampain socialist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:18am:

don't waste time with people like peccary. They are ruining this country.
Just vote them into oblivion. When they come to their senses, maybe they'll get a look in again. I doubt it though.

Presenting you with the facts is "ruining this country" now, is it?

What a peculiar view.

Would you care to elaborate and tell us all how I'm "ruining this country"?

Remembering that I've stated:

- The current system isn't working
- The ALP stuffed up
- I'd like to see the boats stop tomorrow

So, how exactly am I harming this country?

If you don't know how that sort of attitude is doing harm, then there isn't any hope for you. There are millions of people in this country with that sort of inherited thinking from their families. That's why this country is in the state that it is.

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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #139 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:39am

shampain socialist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

shampain socialist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:18am:

don't waste time with people like peccary. They are ruining this country.
Just vote them into oblivion. When they come to their senses, maybe they'll get a look in again. I doubt it though.

Presenting you with the facts is "ruining this country" now, is it?

What a peculiar view.

Would you care to elaborate and tell us all how I'm "ruining this country"?

Remembering that I've stated:

- The current system isn't working
- The ALP stuffed up
- I'd like to see the boats stop tomorrow

So, how exactly am I harming this country?

If you don't know how that sort of attitude is doing harm, then there isn't any hope for you. There are millions of people in this country with that sort of inherited thinking from their families. That's why this country is in the state that it is.

WTF?

Did you read my post?

I said:

- The current system isn't working
- The ALP stuffed up
- I'd like to see the boats stop tomorrow

So, please explain how "that sort of attitude is doing harm".

Be specific: don't hide behind "If you don't know ... then there isn't any hope for you".

To recap, in case you missed it:

- The current system isn't working
- The ALP stuffed up
- I'd like to see the boats stop tomorrow

Over to you ...

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Reply #140 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:55am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 7:44pm:

The building is on fire and rather than address the fire, greg would rather discuss whether its correctly termed an apartment or a house.....

No, that's a totally inaccurate assessment.

Thank you for your valuable input though.

We're all so pleased that you came.

i am. his point makes sense. yours are justy whiney, sooky, legal talk.
if you spoke to the australian people like that (say they gave you chris bowens job) you'd last 5 minutes.

The "Australian people" I speak to have the intelligence to recognise simple facts when they hear them.

Moreover, I wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes with the "Australian people" you speak to.

dont become a political advisor then, stick to the chattering classes. the australian people i speak of, probably run at about 75%.

why do you think both gillard and abbott talk tough on boats, why the malaysian solution, naru and manus island? because the australian people want these boats stopped . god bless democracy. god bless septemeber 14 Wink

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Reply #141 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:02pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 8:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 11^th, 2013 at 7:44pm:

The building is on fire and rather than address the fire, greg would rather discuss whether its correctly termed an apartment or a house.....

No, that's a totally inaccurate assessment.

Thank you for your valuable input though.

We're all so pleased that you came.

i am. his point makes sense. yours are justy whiney, sooky, legal talk.
if you spoke to the australian people like that (say they gave you chris bowens job) you'd last 5 minutes.

The "Australian people" I speak to have the intelligence to recognise simple facts when they hear them.

Moreover, I wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes with the "Australian people" you speak to.

dont become a political advisor then, stick to the chattering classes. the australian people i speak of, probably run at about 75%.

why do you think both gillard and abbott talk tough on boats, why the malaysian solution, naru and manus island? because the australian people want these boats stopped . god bless democracy. god bless septemeber 14 Wink

You just don't read the posts, do you?

"I'd like to see the boats stop immediately."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1370840380/129#129

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals Reply #142 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:03pm Talking tough on boat people resonates with the Australian people greg, whether you like this fact or not. If it didn't, then both major parties wouldn't do it. The everyday Aussie is sick of boat people coming to the country. All the polling tells you this.
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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #143 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:06pm

Pull Factor Adjustment

1) Immediate detention for minimum 2 years on any asylum application
2) No right of family to join at any time, rather they would undergo same lengthy process
3) No right to become permanent resident at any time
4) Forcible repatriation following determination of safe status of applicant's country
5) Food stamps and not cash welfare
6) Settlement areas for asylum seekers rather than they choose where to live

That will stop your boats.

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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #144 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:07pm

shampain socialist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

shampain socialist wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:18am:

don't waste time with people like peccary. They are ruining this country.
Just vote them into oblivion. When they come to their senses, maybe they'll get a look in again. I doubt it though.

Presenting you with the facts is "ruining this country" now, is it?

What a peculiar view.

Would you care to elaborate and tell us all how I'm "ruining this country"?

Remembering that I've stated:

- The current system isn't working
- The ALP stuffed up
- I'd like to see the boats stop tomorrow

So, how exactly am I harming this country?

If you don't know how that sort of attitude is doing harm, then there isn't any hope for you. There are millions of people in this country with that sort of inherited thinking from their families. That's why this country is in the state that it is.

I don't think knowledge, or lack of knowledge, of the Migration Act governs public attitude.

I do think such knowledge, how it translates into govt policy and its relationship with UN Refugee Convention and Protocols is useful in debate about what needs to change, how it may be implemented and the resulting international implications.

As I feel favourable towards Australia's withdrawal from UN Convention and Protocols, I wish there was more information available for my educative purposes. Why should we? Why not?

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Reply #145 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:31pm

Put the Imigration processing Facility on the island of Bali Indonesia, Then do the processing and bring them in legal. That way Australia makes the money and more Australians will have Jobs.

Why are we so stupid as Australians, that we don't realize that these imigrants could be a benifit to us.

And be able to better our lives.

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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

The bigger the Arshole you are on this forum, the more right you have to stay.

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Reply #146 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:49pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Talking tough on boat people resonates with the Australian people greg, whether you like this fact or not.

If it didn't, then both major parties wouldn't do it.

The everyday Aussie is sick of boat people coming to the country. All the polling tells you this.

You don't read the posts, do you?

"I'd like to see the boats stop immediately." (greggerypeccary)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1370840380/129#129

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Reply #147 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:51pm

warrigal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:31pm:

Put the Imigration processing Facility on the island of Bali Indonesia, Then do the processing and bring them in legal.

The way they come in now is not illegal.

Seeking asylum on a boat without a passport or visa is not illegal.

What part of that don't you understand?

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Reply #148 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Talking tough on boat people resonates with the Australian people greg, whether you like this fact or not.

If it didn't, then both major parties wouldn't do it.

The everyday Aussie is sick of boat people coming to the country. All the polling tells you this.

You don't read the posts, do you?

"I'd like to see the boats stop immediately." (greggerypeccary)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1370840380/129#129

Your views on how Gregg????

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Reply #149 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:34pm

Alinta wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Talking tough on boat people resonates with the Australian people greg, whether you like this fact or not.

If it didn't, then both major parties wouldn't do it.

The everyday Aussie is sick of boat people coming to the country. All the polling tells you this.

You don't read the posts, do you?

"I'd like to see the boats stop immediately." (greggerypeccary)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1370840380/129#129

Your views on how Gregg????

I concur with Brendan O'Connor:

"A three word slogan will not stop the global problem of people using desperate measures to seek asylum. There is no quick fix to stop asylum seekers traveling to Australia by boat."

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