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Reply #60 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm
 
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?
rubbish.

no, I'm not confusing anything... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.
If the Australian Government wants to do something about that... see to it in the originating countries... and bring the actions of those governments to the attention of the United Nations if need be... and then follow through with action or sanctions in respect of those governments.
There you are ... a fine fabian socialist globalist solution.
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Reply #61 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm
 
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.
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Reply #62 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:42pm
 
It will be made correct.
politically correct. If not by your lot, then an alternative government.

This country needs less attitudes like your's.
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Re: Rescuing sinking boatfuls of illegals
Reply #63 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:44pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 2:22pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 12:52pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
Big Dave wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 11:57am:
Big Dave wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 5:33am:
Isn't funny how deep down you do-gooders on here want Australia to be the salvation of the world. You won't say it but you all believe that if they make it here you can stay. COME ON EVERYBODY. COME TO GOOD OLD AUS AND WE CAN SING AND DANCE AND WIGGLE IN THE SAND WITH NO CLOTHES ON, WEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!


Exactly. Only Mr Abbott can stop the boats.
Well Labor can't. No they can but they won't.


Dead right, Gillard could have stopped the boats years ago, but has chosen instead to attack Abbott in a vain attempt to score some political points at the expense of the illegal immigrants themselves.


Would that be by "Simply Picking up the Phone to Naru" teaspoon?

Well we have & its done bugger all

Oh we haven't towed any boats back?
I'll bet you $50 right now that by 2016 if Abbott's PM the sum total of returned boats is ZERO.
Did you listen to the Indonesian ambassador the other day or was that filtered out of your news prism of 2GB & the Tele?
Here's a link, bit hard to tow back when Indo doesn't recognize them, sure they'll take the boats & crew but what about the reffo's? The whole smacking purpose of the expensive & dangerous exercise?

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/indonesia-rejects-abbott-tow-back-b...

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THE Indonesian government has confirmed that it would not accept the towing back of asylum seeker boats to its shores, sources say.




Or is it TPV's we need to introduce teaspoon?
I've shown you numerous times before their introduction only changed asylum seekers from men to Women & children complete with figures & graphs from the ABS, are you stupid or have dementia?

Don't bother I already know.


Still can't face raw, hard facts, eh? Simply reinstating offshore processing was never going to work and Abbott has consistently said as much. Labor needs to reintroduce the full suite of policies put in place by Howard, including offshore processing and TPVs. TPVs were extremely effective because they did not lead to permanent residence status and did not allow those who held this visa to take a holiday back home and then return to Australia to continue their claim for asylum. once you left, you could not return. Gillard has refused and must accept the blame for the resulting 40,000 people who have arrived on more than 500 boats since Labor won office. Gillard must also accept that it is her policies that are encouraging people to risk their lives and in some cases, die at sea. You simply can't run away from the truth - the Pacific Solution worked, Rudd made a colossal mistake in dismantling that policy and Gillard has succeeded only in making matters far worse under her Prime Ministership.


Yawn, you've ignored the fact I addressed everyone of Abbott's "Suite" of policies.

The Pacific Solution worked in its time, whilst Iraq was still at war, whilst the Tamils were still at war, granted the on going weeping sore of Afghanistan hasn't changed. But given 2 of the 3 largest groups of reffo's has.
Do you think it would still be working?

I'm smacking over you simpletons, Do you really believe all will be as it was in 2005 by electing Abbott, the world has changed & continues to do so.
It will NEVER be 2005 again & in 2016 when the debt level is as big or bigger than now are you still going to try the Its Gillards fault, of course you will or you'll sight debt to GDP pointing out how small a % it is compared to other western economies( without even blinking), because it a football game to you idiots.
bugger the country, my team should always win regardless.

Tony wont stop the boats
He won't tow them back
He may well introduce TPV's again seeing that the only thing he actually has control of, but will you ring your hands for the drowned women & children post Sept, no of course not, you'll revert back to "it's their fault".


Excuse me, most of us here want Mr Abbott to SHOOT the boats. These people have invaded our country illegally. We are thereby permitted to treat this act as a state of war. The navy should act immediately.

Well, after Mr Abbott gets in. Only Mr Abbott can stop the boats. It's a tried and true formula. JuLiar encourages boats. Mr Abbott frightens them off.

JuLiar and Mr Abbott are like sirens and sea monsters, luring or propelling these people to their doom.

STOP THE BOATS.
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Reply #64 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.



whilst you are technically correct gregory, the australian people live in a democracy and they will respond to technocrats, such as yourself, come september 14.  so, those who agree with you, will have the benefit of being 'technically correct' as they are evicted forcefully from power.  hollow "technical' victory old chap.  western sydney and the other over run suburbs are waiting to deal with your 'technicalities" in the polling booth Wink Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #65 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
out with the undemocratic fabian globalists
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Reply #66 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
Shampain, do you have a specific link re the refugee application situation in Germany???????

I've found and read a couple of documents, neither of which stipulates no papers, no acceptance of application on arrival....
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Reply #67 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.


How would you know whether it is correct?
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Reply #68 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:48pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.



whilst you are technically correct gregory, the australian people live in a democracy and they will respond to technocrats, such as yourself, come september 14.  so, those who agree with you, will have the benefit of being 'technically correct' as they are evicted forcefully from power.  hollow "technical' victory old chap.  western sydney and the other over run suburbs are waiting to deal with your 'technicalities" in the polling booth Wink Wink Wink Wink



It won't change when the Libs get in.

Asylum seekers will still be able to seek asylum in Australia without a passport or visa.

Not sure why you thought otherwise   Undecided
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Reply #69 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.



whilst you are technically correct gregory, the australian people live in a democracy and they will respond to technocrats, such as yourself, come september 14.  so, those who agree with you, will have the benefit of being 'technically correct' as they are evicted forcefully from power.  hollow "technical' victory old chap.  western sydney and the other over run suburbs are waiting to deal with your 'technicalities" in the polling booth Wink Wink Wink Wink



It won't change when the Libs get in.

Asylum seekers will still be able to seek asylum in Australia without a passport or visa.

Not sure why you thought otherwise   Undecided


You're assuming Mr Abbott won't take Australia out of the UN.

Typical.
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Reply #70 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:49pm
 
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
out with the undemocratic fabian globalists



yes, indeed,  that is exactly what morns like gillard are co are.  the australian people wouldnt really know what a fabian or a globalist is, but they can smell sh*t and they know somethings not right.  'gut instinct"  gregory,  you cant fight it.
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Reply #71 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.


How would you know whether it is correct?



I've read the 1951 UN Refugees Convention and the Australian Migration Act 1958.


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Reply #72 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
oh greggy,  you are wrong on this one.
temporary protection visas old chap
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Reply #73 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:51pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:35pm:
shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
what, 40,000 of them can't make applications?


Correct.  You don't seem to have any idea of what goes on around the world.


shampain socialist wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:31pm:
... if you don't have papers, you can't come here. Simple.


That's quite simply incorrect.



whilst you are technically correct gregory, the australian people live in a democracy and they will respond to technocrats, such as yourself, come september 14.  so, those who agree with you, will have the benefit of being 'technically correct' as they are evicted forcefully from power.  hollow "technical' victory old chap.  western sydney and the other over run suburbs are waiting to deal with your 'technicalities" in the polling booth Wink Wink Wink Wink



It won't change when the Libs get in.

Asylum seekers will still be able to seek asylum in Australia without a passport or visa.

Not sure why you thought otherwise   Undecided


You're assuming Mr Abbott won't take Australia out of the UN.




Yes.

Funny that.
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Reply #74 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:53pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:50pm:
oh greggy,  you are wrong on this one.
temporary protection visas old chap



No.

Everything I've said in this thread is 100% correct.

Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary though, if you think you can.

You'll excuse me for not holding my breath while waiting though.

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