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Jun 11th, 2013 at 3:03pm
 
TI as in Targeted Individual and MKULTRA, the cia's covert social control project supposed to have stopped in 1973. Wikipedia has good detail on MKULTRA and was recently changed to "officially halted in 1973" without debate. In many countries there are hundreds of people calling themselves TIs who claim that techniques similar to those researched at MKULTRA are in practice on them today. Whistleblower accounts confirm this. Jessie Ventura's doco "Conspiracy Theory - Brain Invader's" (youtube)contains a disturbing interview with ex CIA Robert Duncan, and another revealing account comes Carl Clark which you should find through Google. Most people don't want to know about this subject, but you should because if all the many TIs are right these methods of covert social control are proliferating, and they are almost invisible, largely undetectable and unprovable.
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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2013 at 4:05pm
 
It's possible that MKULTRA was simply changed to a different program name, but really, MKULTRA didn't fail because it was stopped. The techniques they researched - shock therapy, drug therapy, LSD, light shows, etc - were proven to be largely useless in getting people to do things they don't want to do.

Same as the liberation ideals of the 1960s. People found that LSD, Gestalt therapy, Orgone Accumulators, Scientology and rural community living were pretty useless too.

Nothing works.
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:23pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 4:05pm:
It's possible that MKULTRA was simply changed to a different program name, but really, MKULTRA didn't fail because it was stopped. The techniques they researched - shock therapy, drug therapy, LSD, light shows, etc - were proven to be largely useless in getting people to do things they don't want to do.


I think it is more about stopping people doing what they want to do. e.g. If you are trying to run a home office and your equipment continually stuffs up in weird ways techs can't easily fix then there goes your business, project, whatever.
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2013 at 3:34pm
 
Jed Stuart wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2013 at 4:05pm:
It's possible that MKULTRA was simply changed to a different program name, but really, MKULTRA didn't fail because it was stopped. The techniques they researched - shock therapy, drug therapy, LSD, light shows, etc - were proven to be largely useless in getting people to do things they don't want to do.


I think it is more about stopping people doing what they want to do. e.g. If you are trying to run a home office and your equipment continually stuffs up in weird ways techs can't easily fix then there goes your business, project, whatever.


Why would the US military want to do that?

There is an effective way to get people to change their behaviour: marketing. All you need is a consumer economy and easily available credit. The rest will take care of itself.

I'm not sure if the techniques currently used by the US military were even trialled by MKULTRA. Waterboarding, white noise, blindfolds and sleep deprivation are hardly psychiatric techniques.
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Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2013 at 2:26pm
 
[/quote]Why would the US military want to do that? 

I'm not sure if the techniques currently used by the US military were even trialled by MKULTRA. Waterboarding, white noise, blindfolds and sleep deprivation are hardly psychiatric techniques. [/quote]

I didn't say I thought it was the US military. Many TIs havn't a clue who is doing it to them, although most blame "the government" because of where the technology seems to come from. My view is that we have covert fascism using MKULTRA techniques. There were Nazis scientists involved in that project and the experiments were quite similarly horrific. Where covert fascism is now based is a question we could be asking the intelligence communities of the world. They would probably say nothing because it is inside.
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Reply #5 - Jun 14th, 2013 at 2:28pm
 
[/quote]Why would the US military want to do that?  I'm not sure if the techniques currently used by the US military were even trialled by MKULTRA. Waterboarding, white noise, blindfolds and sleep deprivation are hardly psychiatric techniques. [/quote]

I didn't say I thought it was the US military. Many TIs havn't a clue who is doing it to them, although most blame "the government" because of where the technology seems to come from. My view is that we have covert fascism using MKULTRA techniques. There were Nazis scientists involved in that project and the experiments were quite similarly horrific. Where covert fascism is now based is a question we could be asking the intelligence communities of the world. They would probably say nothing because it is inside. [/quote]
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DOD Whistleblower Exposes MK Ultra Hip Hop Conspiracy

Published on Sep 17, 2013
Government tapped: Michael Jackson's last phone call...
Related article: http://www.examiner.com/article/dod-w...
Dept. of Defense Whistleblower Robert Connors: "It is urgent that all American citizens view this video. Please spread with haste as I do not know how long this video or channel will be active. God Bless America."
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http://www.examiner.com/article/dod-whistleblower-exposes-michael-jackson-s-last...

eptember 18, 2013
A man claiming to be a former Dept. of Defense operative came forward to expose Michael Jackson’s last phone call and a secret program tied to MK-Ultra, aimed at the degradation of the African-American culture.

Potentially confirming the widespread belief that pop superstar Michael Jackson’s sister, Latoya Jackson, has advocated since Michael’s death in the summer of 2009 (that her brother “was murdered”), a man claiming to be a former Department of Defense (DOD) operative may have just blown the conspiracy wide open.

Giving the US government, more specifically his colleagues at the DOD, a week to unearth the evidence he and the government allegedly has, or he will on Monday, Sept. 23rd, a man going by the name of Robert Connors uploaded a single yet chilling video to what looks to be a brand new YouTube account, exposing what Connors says is the last phone call ever made by Jackson on the eve of his passing.

Claiming to have served his country “with both honor and distinction” for over 20 years at the DOD, including active duty campaigns in both Iran and Vietnam, Connors also claims to have multiple tapes and videos that not only proves the death of Michael Jackson to be a conspiracy, but that also proves the existence of a black-op known to secret agents as “Operation Sedgwick.” Allegedly tied to the infamous and all-to-real MK-Ultra program of mind-control and signed into motion during the end of the Reagan era. With the sole purpose of using hip hop music (and gangsta’ rap), according to Connors, as a tool to control the African-American population in the US, send it into chaos [and to fill private-prison industry facilities].

According to Connors, Operation Sedgwick is or was a program that is a legitimate “danger to the nation” and decided to come forward with this earth-shattering information to both clear his conscious so he “can sleep at night” and because he believes it would be “a sin” if he didn’t. Urging his fellow colleagues to do the same.

The video also claims the tapes and videos Connor has in his possession proves the murder of Tupac Shakur to be a government conspiracy as well.

The end of the video has the subtitled audio recording of what Connors claims to be the final call Michael Jackson made only hours before his death, on the evening of June, 24th, 2009, to a long-time friend and business associate of Jackson’s, Dieter Wiesner. A man many feel may have had something to do with Jackson’s death, but even Latoya Jackson has never uttered who she truly feels was responsible. At least, not publicly.

But Connors and Latoya aren’t the only ones who feel Jackson was murdered or that there is much more to the story than meets the eye. Just after a visit to a drug treatment facility earlier this summer, Jackson’s daughter Paris shocked Hollywood with a cryptic Tweet of her own, saying that it took her three years to figure out who “they” were, referencing Jackson’s controversial 1996 hit song “They Don’t’ Care About US” and asked followers to “RT if you know what that means.”

If there was ever a hint as to who “they” really are however, perhaps the best peek into the dark side of Hollywood and what truly goes on behind the scenes can be an alarming episode celebrity Randy Quaid and his wife were forced to endure, not long after the mysterious deaths of multiple actors over a few-year period in the mid to late 2000s.

Being forced to come right out and admit to an agenda by a faction of rogue Hollywood elites for their own safety, while asking for Asylum in Canada, Quaid and his wife, just as Latoya Jackson claimed was the case with Michael, were the targets of what appeared to be a common operation of the murder of Hollywood stars and the takeover of much of their assets, revenue streams and estates. Using tools such as phony records, front-corporations and forged legal documents.
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