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Reply #30 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:14pm:
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This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?


I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.

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Reply #31 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:13pm
 
Maybe it was a typo. Have you leftards ever thought of that?

Typical.
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Reply #32 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:14pm
 
But Mr Yay, you said:

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This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.
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Reply #33 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:15pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:07pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:14pm:
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This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?


I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.



That's right. How dare she complain about blue ties. Almost every Liberal MP wears them.

It's blatant discrimination. That woman should get off her high horse.

It's no wonder we'll need a chaff bag to get rid of her.
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Reply #34 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:24pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:14pm:
But Mr Yay, you said:

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This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.


Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.

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Reply #35 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:25pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:15pm:
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:07pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:14pm:
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This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?


I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.



That's right. How dare she complain about blue ties. Almost every Liberal MP wears them.

It's blatant discrimination. That woman should get off her high horse.

It's no wonder we'll need a chaff bag to get rid of her.


Piss off biscuit.... Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:28pm:
Has anyone even confirmed that this menu actually exists? no one has even confirmed seeing it and all we have is a journos phone camera pic of something that for all we know he printed up himself.

A little confirmation would be helpful.

OH ITS A CONSPIRACY THEORY NOW IS IT?
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Reply #37 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:27pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:43pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 1:27pm:
matty wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Of course it's offensive and shouldn't have been done, but how is Tony Abbott to blame for it? As far as I am aware, he wasn't even at the function.

It's like how people were trying to blame him for Alan Jones 'died of shame comments'.

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.


It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives.  The tail always takes the lead from the head.


It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

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Men in blue ties? 


Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

I'm trying to understand how it's sexist to say Men in Blue ties? It goes towards a sterotype of a alpha authoriative male, perhaps, but how is it sexist? And honestly, I don't really get the "blue" part...
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Reply #38 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:28pm
 
When Julia accuses Tony of sexism, it's not about whether Tony's policies or comments are actually sexist. Julia is talking about herself, not Tony. It has more to do with Julia feeling like a victim than Tony being an oppressor.

Yet, that's the reasoning behind victimhood in the workplace and in government. If someone feels they are a victim of sexism, racism or some other kind of discriminatory behaviour, bullying or harassment, then that is sufficient. It doesn't matter what the "oppressor" actually said or did.

For example, if you're a man and start doing things that are unintentionally annoying to a woman or you somehow end up in the same places as her, she might think you're harassing, following or stalking her. It doesn't matter if you have no intention of harassing, following or stalking, that you somehow said or did things, by coincidence, that made her uncomfortable. If she thinks it's sexual harassment, it's sexual harassment. If she thinks you're stalking her, you're stalking her. It doesn't matter what you think, it doesn't matter why you said or did what you did. What matters is how she feels.

What exists in the victim's mind is what matters, not that of the alleged oppressor.

I'm not saying it's wrong, because sometimes the "victim" really does feel that way, and you can't be sure. You just have to believe them.
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Reply #39 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:28pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:15pm:
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:07pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:14pm:
Quote:
This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?


I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.



That's right. How dare she complain about blue ties. Almost every Liberal MP wears them.

It's blatant discrimination. That woman should get off her high horse.

It's no wonder we'll need a chaff bag to get rid of her.


Piss off biscuit.... Roll Eyes


Excuse me, moderators, this leftard is trying to plan a menu with me. I want him gone.

I would like it on record that I will not discuss dishes with this man.

Matty is the only dish I want on the menu, thank you very much.
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Reply #40 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:28pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
I have to agree with Aussie, it shows at least some Libs hold very disrespectful, sexist views.
I also find Aboott's response very telling, as it avoids any acceptance of wrongdoing, and lacks the apology thaat should have been immediately forthcoming.
Sexist and classless.

Oh it always avoids any acceptance of wrongdoing and is always a sweep under the carpet. He needs to tell Brough to piss off. And Hockey needs to be chastised as he should've known better.

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Reply #41 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:31pm
 
Mnemonic wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
When Julia accuses Tony of sexism, it's not about whether Tony's policies or comments are actually sexist. Julia is talking about herself, not Tony. It has more to do with Julia feeling like a victim than Tony being an oppressor.

Yet, that's the reasoning behind victimhood in the workplace and in government. If someone feels they are a victim of sexism, racism or some other kind of discriminatory behaviour, bullying or harassment, then that is sufficient. It doesn't matter what the "oppressor" actually said or did.

For example, if you're a man and start doing things that are unintentionally annoying to a woman or you somehow end up in the same places as her, she might think you're harassing, following or stalking her. It doesn't matter if you have no intention of harassing, following or stalking, that you somehow said or did things, by coincidence, that made her uncomfortable. If she thinks it's sexual harassment, it's sexual harassment. If she thinks you're stalking her, you're stalking her. It doesn't matter what you think, it doesn't matter why you said or did what you did. What matters is how she feels.

What exists in the victim's mind is what matters, not that of the alleged oppressor.

I'm not saying it's wrong, because sometimes the "victim" really does feel that way, and you can't be sure. You just have to believe them.


Mr Monic......that's very nice, but it has nothing to do with a pathetic, disgusting, vile, inappropriate piece of UNDENIABLE Liberal sexism directed at Gillard.
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Reply #42 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:31pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:58pm:
I have to agree with Aussie, it shows at least some Libs hold very disrespectful, sexist views.
I also find Aboott's response very telling, as it avoids any acceptance of wrongdoing, and lacks the apology thaat should have been immediately forthcoming.
Sexist and classless.


mozzaok

So do all politicians on both sides and society in general do this kind of rubbish (do we have to bring up the rubbish from the union convention ??? that many ALP MP attended and watched)

This is all womens weekly type rubbish hardly worth mentioning.

Abbott could run around parliament house naked and still get elected ..... might even give him a poll bounce

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Reply #43 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:32pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:27pm:
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:43pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 1:27pm:
matty wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Of course it's offensive and shouldn't have been done, but how is Tony Abbott to blame for it? As far as I am aware, he wasn't even at the function.

It's like how people were trying to blame him for Alan Jones 'died of shame comments'.

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.


It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives.  The tail always takes the lead from the head.


It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

Roll Eyes





Men in blue ties? 


Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

I'm trying to understand how it's sexist to say Men in Blue ties? It goes towards a sterotype of a alpha authoriative male, perhaps, but how is it sexist? And honestly, I don't really get the "blue" part...


It's just good taste. Most club ties are blue - private school ties too.

If I wish to wear my Melbourne Club tie I should have every right to do so without the vile JuLiar's approval.
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Reply #44 - Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:32pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:24pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 12th, 2013 at 3:14pm:
But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:
This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.


Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.


Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.


or a woman who has to deal with this crap every day. Don't get me wrong, I was the same as you yesterday. When I read the news yesterday I rolled my eyes and say, "oh not again."  But today really shows to me exactly what the boys club in parliament and within poltiical realms really does, and what she does in fact have to put up with. I support her and this particular incident has only too well proven to me at least that here we are yet again with men of the 1960s.  Enough is enough. When will they learn? Why was there nothing about perhaps, "Brough's Banana Split - a shriveled miniature dessert that won't satisfy?"  Why do we never see that? But we constantly see the same crap relating to women's breasts or thighs, or just general disregard? It has to stop. And it has to stop by telling people that the excuse of "I didn't see it" is no longer good enough.
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