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BlOoDy RiPpEr Gold Member Offline aussie-patriot.com Posts: 2475 Sydney Gender:	Indonesian Muslim Killings Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:48pm Indonesian Muslim Killing Muslims That Converts To Christianity
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesian Muslim Killings Reply #1 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:35pm This is fake. The videos are of Indonesian aborigines (non muslim) killing each other over tribal disputes. These sorts of images have been around for years. Shame on you islamophobes spreading this deceitful propaganda (not to mention using grizzly and tragic deaths for a sinister agenda).
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Reply #2 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:59pm

after just a little digging, I found the exact same video on liveleak - only this was purported to be an inter-ethnic conflict between the aboriginal Dayak people and the local muslims. Yes thats right, the victims here are apparently muslim.

By putting two and two together, I made an educated guess that these images were from the so called "Sampit conflict" - an incident in 2001 when hundreds of muslims were slaughtered by the Dayaks - including beheadings and decapitations:

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The Sampit conflict was an outbreak of inter-ethnic violence in Indonesia, beginning in February 2001 and lasting throughout the year. The conflict started in the town of Sampit, Central Kalimantan Province, and spread throughout the province, including the capital, Palangkaraya. The conflict was between the indigenous Dayak people and the migrant Madurese from the island of Madura.[1] It broke out on February 18, 2001 when two Madurese were attacked by a number of Dayaks.[2] The conflict resulted in more than 500 deaths, with over 100,000 Madurese displaced from their homes.[3] Many Madurese were also found decapitated by the Dayaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampit_conflict

Do you bigots have any shame?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136426 Gender:	Re: Indonesian Muslim Killings Reply #3 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm .
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Reply #4 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:59pm:

after just a little digging, I found the exact same video on liveleak - only this was purported to be an inter-ethnic conflict between the aboriginal Dayak people and the local muslims. Yes thats right, the victims here are apparently muslim.

By putting two and two together, I made an educated guess that these images were from the so called "Sampit conflict" - an incident in 2001 when hundreds of muslims were slaughtered by the Dayaks - including beheadings and decapitations:

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The Sampit conflict was an outbreak of inter-ethnic violence in Indonesia, beginning in February 2001 and lasting throughout the year. The conflict started in the town of Sampit, Central Kalimantan Province, and spread throughout the province, including the capital, Palangkaraya. The conflict was between the indigenous Dayak people and the migrant Madurese from the island of Madura.[1] It broke out on February 18, 2001 when two Madurese were attacked by a number of Dayaks.[2] The conflict resulted in more than 500 deaths, with over 100,000 Madurese displaced from their homes.[3] Many Madurese were also found decapitated by the Dayaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampit_conflict

Do you bigots have any shame?

Survival of the fittest, innit. We all know the Muselmen started it. Absolutely. On stilts.

Shurely shome mishtake, non?

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Reply #5 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:59pm:

after just a little digging, I found the exact same video on liveleak - only this was purported to be an inter-ethnic conflict between the aboriginal Dayak people and the local muslims. Yes thats right, the victims here are apparently muslim.

By putting two and two together, I made an educated guess that these images were from the so called "Sampit conflict" - an incident in 2001 when hundreds of muslims were slaughtered by the Dayaks - including beheadings and decapitations:

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The Sampit conflict was an outbreak of inter-ethnic violence in Indonesia, beginning in February 2001 and lasting throughout the year. The conflict started in the town of Sampit, Central Kalimantan Province, and spread throughout the province, including the capital, Palangkaraya. The conflict was between the indigenous Dayak people and the migrant Madurese from the island of Madura.[1] It broke out on February 18, 2001 when two Madurese were attacked by a number of Dayaks.[2] The conflict resulted in more than 500 deaths, with over 100,000 Madurese displaced from their homes.[3] Many Madurese were also found decapitated by the Dayaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampit_conflict

Do you bigots have any shame?

Falah was just as selective as you are in quoting one side of the sory.

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There are a number of stories purportedly describing the incident that sparked the violence in 2001.

One version claims that it was caused by an arson attack on a Dayak house.

Professor Usop of the Dayak people's association claims that the massacres by the Dayak's were in self defence after the Dayak's were attacked{7}.

It was claimed a dayak was tortured and killed by a gand of madurese

The al Durrah hoax along with the Lebanese ambulance hoax show that it is not unprecedented for muslims to speak fluent bullshit.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #6 - Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:40pm

Good job Baron - lets do our damnedest to defend arseholes who take a video of *MUSLIMS* being slaughtered, beheaded, mutilated, and pretend the victims are actually the perpetrators - all to spread more anti-islamic bigotry. How very shameless of you.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Falah was just as selective as you are in quoting one side of the sory.

From your link-

I'm not primarily concerned here with the details of the incident and who was to blame - and I'm more than willing to accept that muslims were at leats partly to blame. What I *DO* object to is people blatantly making sh!t up about the images all for an anti-islam agenda. Go and find the facebook page set up over this, and see the thousands (yes thousands) of anti-islam bigoted comments on it - all mislead by a bigoted arsehole whose only agenda is to spread hate, and lie to achieve it. Those decapitated and mutilated people in that video were *MUSLIMS*, and the people dancing on their bodies and holding up heads as trophies were *NON-MUSLIMS* - ie the exact opposite of what the areshole who posted this video claims.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Indonesian Muslim Killings Reply #7 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 9:48pm How do you know that Gandalf?
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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Indonesian Muslim Killings Reply #8 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 10:02pm I have no knowledge on the veracity of the accusations only to note that payback is a bitch and the religion of peace seems to be disproportionately associated with not playing well and body counts.
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Reply #9 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 11:08pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

How do you know that Gandalf?

The question you should be asking, is on what possible basis this video can be dubbed with the title "Indonesian Muslim Killing Muslims That Converts To Christianity"? The answer is none.

For my part, this tweaked my interest because I specifically remembered an email trail back in the day with suspiciously similar gruesome photos, and the story then mentioned nothing about christians being killed by muslims.

So I did a bit of elementary research, and the first discrepency I found was the liveleaks video (the same video) which told a story about a non-muslim tribe attacking muslims at a small place called Sampit.

I got far more traction when I searched using the Indonesian spelling 'tragedi sampit' - and there is a wealth of information - most of it in Indonesian. And sure enough the same video pops up repeatedly.

If nothing else, this exercise taught me that this incident, while quite significant inside Indonesia, is barely known outside Indonesia. Small wonder that people can take the video and make a blatant lie out of it - since most people won't be the wiser.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #10 - Jun 17^th, 2013 at 10:36am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 11:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

How do you know that Gandalf?

The question you should be asking, is on what possible basis this video can be dubbed with the title "Indonesian Muslim Killing Muslims That Converts To Christianity"? The answer is none.

For my part, this tweaked my interest because I specifically remembered an email trail back in the day with suspiciously similar gruesome photos, and the story then mentioned nothing about christians being killed by muslims.

So I did a bit of elementary research, and the first discrepency I found was the liveleaks video (the same video) which told a story about a non-muslim tribe attacking muslims at a small place called Sampit.

I got far more traction when I searched using the Indonesian spelling 'tragedi sampit' - and there is a wealth of information - most of it in Indonesian. And sure enough the same video pops up repeatedly.

If nothing else, this exercise taught me that this incident, while quite significant inside Indonesia, is barely known outside Indonesia. Small wonder that people can take the video and make a blatant lie out of it - since most people won't be the wiser.

The knuckleheads get their information from two sources: Jihadwatch and Islamreligionofpeace.

The anti-Muslim crusade is nothing more than a cult - like Scientology. The information descends from above and the knuckleads swallow it whole. There is no questioning within the anti-Muselman camp, no logic or reason. The word is put on the websites and the knuckleheads gleefully disseminate it throughout the world.

Truth doesn't come into it. The knuckleheads aren't interested. All they want is something to rail against. If islam disappeared tomorrow, they'd be lost.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesian Muslim Killings Reply #11 - Jun 17^th, 2013 at 11:20am very true Karnal, very true. Well put.
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