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15 things the MSM won't tell you
Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:05am

Alan Austin lifts the lid on 15 Australian success stories Australia’s Soviet-style media will never allow to be told — and the three they will.

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AUSTRALIA IS NOT just a success story — it is an anthology of success stories. Ascendancy in so many areas — all at the same time.
Europeans wish they had these narratives. They would dance in the streets. (Actually, Europeans still dance in the streets, despite everything.) As for Americans and Canadians, they would lap up every word.
But here’s the thing. In Australia these stories are seldom, if ever, told. Not a hint from a Hartcher, not a mention from a Mitchell, not a suggestion from a Sales and not a clue from a Crabb.
Historians will ponder and explore these 15 accomplishments with wonder and delight.

1. The Government of Michael Joseph Savage in New Zealand (1935-40) was recently eclipsed by the Government of Julia Eileen Gillard in Australia for the lowest rate of ministerial sackings due to incompetence or corruption in the Westminster world. Since 1820 anyway. What led to this? Minority government? What else do Michael Joseph and Julia Eileen have in common?
2. Why is Australia now being urged to lead the free world? Australia has been voted to chair the Pacific Islands Forum. Plus next year’s G20 group of the world’s 20 major economies. That’s on top of a seat on the UN Security Council. Everyone wants to sit next to Australia.
3. Why was Prime Minister Gillard given that standing ovation after addressing the US Congress? Traditionally, that honour is reserved for deputy sheriffs who follow Uncle Sam into battle. How has this government managed to strengthen the alliance without supporting a single invasion? What singular advantage has Australia thereby gained?
4. What precisely transformed relations with Indonesia? Australia is no longer the target for embassy killings, nightclub bombings, presidential invective and diplomatic insults. Who was the man who accomplished this? Or was it a woman?

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5. How has Australia dealt with the wanton cruelty inflicted upon live sheep and cattle exported to Asia and the Middle East? With what outcomes? And why are bulls being tortured in television reports always named Billy or Bobby and not Brutus or Bozo?
6. Australia now ranks higher than ever before on the economic freedom index published by Washington’s Heritage Foundation. [Mission: “to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.”] Australia’s score is now the highest in the 34-nation OECD. A Labor government? Holy handguns! How did this happen?
7. Australia is one of four countries in the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) to have unemployment below 5.5% and job participation above 75%. Which are the others? What else distinguishes them?
8. Australia is one of only three nations in the OECD and G20 economies with interest rates in the optimum range between 1.75% and 4.75%. Only Australia has maintained this through the global financial crisis. How? What can Australia do now that was never possible before?
9. Australia is the only developed country to have had continuous economic growth for 22 years. Australia and Poland alone among OECD nations avoided recession in 2009. Why just these two? Which other nation is the most envious, and why?
10. Labor productivity is a tricky concept to define and even trickier to get right. It measures the costs of labour and other inputs used to produce things. Low productivity has bedevilled the world for decades, including Australia’s. Until 2011, that is. Suddenly it surged in Australia, rising dramatically for a record seven consecutive quarters. Seven. Wow! What generated this amazing surge? And what will trigger a sudden reversal?

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Reply #1 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:06am

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/productivity

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11. Australia has zoomed to the top of the table of well-managed economies. That’s based on all the key variables. Not just in the world now, but anywhere, any time. How? Was it abundant minerals, critical decisions by Treasury, or the sound work of Peter Costello?
12. Speaking of whom, why does Australia always rise up through the ranks during Labor regimes and tumble down during Coalition periods? From 19th in 1983 up to 6th during the Hawke/Keating years, then down to 12th in 2007 under Howard and Costello, then to the very pinnacle in 2010. Who benefits from this cycle?
13. Best economy in the world is creditable enough. Best the world has ever seen is more impressive still. But achieved during the worst global economic crisis since the 1930s? How is this conceivable?
14. Remember when national strikes routinely disrupted train and air travel? Petrol rationing, supermarkets running out of milk and garbage piled in the streets? City intersections clogged most Fridays with demonstrations against the war or the US alliance or the government?
Ah, sweet memories. What brought about this cultural change in Australia – almost alone in the Western world – to have such disruption and discord diminish?
15. Finally, what’s with Canberra’s extraordinary dishonesty differential? A journalist was recently assigned the task of counting all the blatant lies – as distinct from unfulfilled promises – by Australia’s four federal party leaders. He found twelve. That’s a lot for just four leaders. He also found they were all by the one leader. Which one? Why was the research not published?

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There. Fifteen stories. Would you like to read one of them? Well, you can’t. Sorry. It has been decided by those who know what you want better than you do that you want three topics only:

(1) How appalling the Government is;
(2) how disastrously it is doing in the opinion polls; and
(3) how the only hope for the future is a leadership challenge.

If the latter eventuates, well, that proves how appalling the Government is, as will be demonstrated in this week’s opinion poll, which will apply further pressure for another leadership challenge. If this doesn’t happen, well that just shows how appalling the Government is, which next week’s opinion poll will highlight …
Ah, you crazy Australians!

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/business/media-2/fifteen-fabulous-succe...

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: 15 things the MSM won't tell you Reply #2 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool. At this time, it simply defies all logic.
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Reply #3 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

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Reply #4 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:32am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

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At least the Labor party dump theirs - note the endorsement of one Mr Slipper as gathered from his web page. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:39am

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

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•Re-elected for the Liberal Party of Australia 1993, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2007 and 2010.
•Independent from 24.11.2011.

At least the Labor party dump theirs - note the endorsement of one Mr Slipper as gathered from his web page. Roll Eyes

"In 2008, Slipper was ordained as a priest of the Anglican Catholic Church in Australia, which is a member church of the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC) and considered part of the international Continuing Anglican movement.[54] He was also the chancellor of the TAC, having succeeded Michael Atkinson,[54] but resigned from this position in August 2012."

Maybe this explains his attraction to young men - probably over a long period of time?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Slipper#Priest
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: 15 things the MSM won't tell you Reply #6 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:43am You’d throw one into Latika Bourke!!
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lisa.greek Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1595 Cairns QLD	Re: 15 things the MSM won't tell you Reply #7 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:52am FriYAY wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:43am: You’d throw one into Latika Bourke!! Indeed I would!
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Reply #8 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

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•Re-elected for the Liberal Party of Australia 1993, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2007 and 2010.
•Independent from 24.11.2011.

At least the Labor party dump theirs - note the endorsement of one Mr Slipper as gathered from his web page. Roll Eyes

IM just laughing at your signature block while a Labor MLC is currently in court over child porn

yeah... hypocrisy is alive and well in the ALP and its supporters.

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Reply #9 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 12:30pm

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

Parliamentary service
•Elected to the House of Representatives for Fisher, Queensland, 1984 for the National Party of Australia. Defeated 1987.
•Re-elected for the Liberal Party of Australia 1993, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2007 and 2010.
•Independent from 24.11.2011.

At least the Labor party dump theirs - note the endorsement of one Mr Slipper as gathered from his web page. Roll Eyes

"In 2008, Slipper was ordained as a priest of the Anglican Catholic Church in Australia, which is a member church of the Traditional Anglican Communion (TAC) and considered part of the international Continuing Anglican movement.[54] He was also the chancellor of the TAC, having succeeded Michael Atkinson,[54] but resigned from this position in August 2012."

Maybe this explains his attraction to young men - probably over a long period of time?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Slipper#Priest
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do you know who this is??? former A-G from the Rann LABOR govt in SA.

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Reply #10 - Jun 14^th, 2013 at 12:46pm

The simple fact of the matter is if the ALP was in power instead of Howard for all those tears we would be in a mess like Europe is right now, could you just imagine the number of unemployed boat people for starters ... faarrk Shocked

, or the amount of money that would have been wasted trying to adjust the worlds temperature double faaarrk Shocked

, yep there no doubt about it we would have been asking Germany for a bail out by now Cry

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John S Gold Member Offline Fascist Party = Liberal Party Posts: 3691 Gender:	Re: 15 things the MSM won't tell you Reply #11 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:22am I notice the liberals have keep away from this thread. What wrong don't you like the truth being told? Are you lot more happy with Murdoch and Abbott lies?
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Reply #12 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

Once and for all, I am not biased.

But I'm not smacking stupid either.

Unlike those who support this Con-alition.

You need to stop insulting those who disagree with you.

I do agree regarding Conroy.

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Reply #13 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:48am

Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

The simple fact of the matter is if the ALP was in power instead of Howard for all those tears we would be in a mess like Europe is right now, could you just imagine the number of unemployed boat people for starters ... faarrk Shocked

, or the amount of money that would have been wasted trying to adjust the worlds temperature double faaarrk Shocked

, yep there no doubt about it we would have been asking Germany for a bail out by now Cry

You are smacking delusional.

No-one stupid enough to believe that should have the right to vote.

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Reply #14 - Jun 15^th, 2013 at 9:07am

Kat wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Kat wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

And it's for all those reasons that I maintain that a vote for Abbott is the vote of a fool.

At this time, it simply defies all logic.

you would believe ANYTHING that supports your bias. your ability to think appears to be close to nil.

Low number of ministerial sackings??? there are two possibilities for that and of course the OP only considers one.

1) superior competence and ethics of ministers
2) acceptance of low standard of ministerial ethics and performance

A swan-type treasurer would have been sacked long ago by most prior governments. Conroy would never be kept past his multiple fiascos. and of course this is the govt that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to dump a criminal MP and a corrupt Speaker.

Once and for all, I am not biased.

But I'm not smacking stupid either.

Unlike those who support this Con-alition.

You need to stop insulting those who disagree with you.

I do agree regarding Conroy.

kat, don't worry about the insults that the neo-con throw at you if they can't win or the look like they are going to loss the arguments that is all they can come up with.

I had one of them told me I shouldn't post on public message board because of my spelling and grammar, but funny thing is that no one on any other message boards that I am a member of has complain about my spelling and grammar. It just goes to show the noe-cons on here how small their brains must be.

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