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Reply #105 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:01am

... wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 9:07am:

Oh FFS. This nonsese gets reaaaaal tiresome.
red/green colour blindness has a similar prevalence as homosexuality. And yet, colour blindness is not 'normal' is it?

Perhaps what your problem is, is that you equate "normal" with "good".

Yet we dont consider colour blind people to be second class citizen, and make it so they cannot marry the people they love, and force them to be disadvantaged in so many ways.

Why is that?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

No. Rape is usually between two non consenting people. Anal sex is not. Grats on being a complete bigot though.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 9:12am:

Evolution has been proven to be false

You do know that you can observe evolution happening with your own eyes, yeah?

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Reply #106 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:06am

Soren wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 11:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 10:56pm:

but coffee is not cat food ... and real coffee does not taste like the crap you get at 'Gloria Jeans (I've never tried starbucks so I'll leave them out of it)

Not that it matters in this country anyway seeing as how in Australia, the prefered drink is coffee flavoured milk shakes. It astonishes me how often I order a short black or espresso, and the 'barista' (I use the term very lightly) looks at me like a stunned mullet. One even bought me a long black once and when I complained he asked me what was the difference. He seriously had no idea ... I explained to him that it would be the same as he having a straight scotch and having a shot of scotch and filling the rest of the glass with water. ... only then did he get it. dam idiot shouldn't be allowed near a coffee machine

All you fvckn progs are such arse-seeping snobs about the most goddam inconsequential things. Pederasty and sodomy and any other perversions are 'no worries, mate' as long as the fvckn 'barista' gets your fvckn espressos right.
Progressive fvckn snobs of the world, UNITE! Make a big fvckn fuss about coffee that's was once not exactly as you like it!!

It;s not snobbery, its reality .... if you want to bugger a goat why would I care? As long as you leave me out of it, it has nothing to do with me, but if I order a coffee and get water, that concerns me. Maybe you should stop trying to change your neighbour to suit you and concentrate more on the things that really do concern you.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #108 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:22am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

Only when a group of real men decide enough's enough and decide to teach moaning p!ssant pricks like you some manners.

Big deal if you you run off screaming to the DO. I'll do a night in the brig and you'll change your story the next day.

You always do.

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Reply #109 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:25am

John Smith wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:11am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 12:05pm:

Yep, I got one from a local cafe made by a wog and it was so strong I feel like I could go 100 hours without sleep.

No thanks.

grow some balls you pussy, you can't even handle a real coffee . let me guess, you mix lemonade with your beer too?

Yeah. They invented non-alcoholic beer for kvnts like this.

It's always sitting there on the supermarket shelf right up the back. Ever wonder who drinks it?

Not anymore.

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Reply #110 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:08pm

donincognito wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:01am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

No. Rape is usually between two non consenting people. Anal sex is not. Grats on being a complete bigot though.

Which totally missed the point. The argument that was being put forward was that since homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom then it is perfectly natural for humans as well.

However, if we take our cues from the animals as to what is right or wrong, then;

Rape happens in the animal kingdom. Rape must be fine.
Incest happens in the animal kingdom. Incest must be fine.
Bestiality (two different species) happens in the animal kingdom. Bestiality must be fine.
Paedophilia (an older animal having sex with - what would be by human standards considered under age - a younger animal) happens in the animal kingdom. Paedophilia must be fine.
Eating your mate after sex happens in the animal kingdom. Cannibalism after sex must be fine.

There is a lot of stuff that happens in the animal world that we would not permit in human society. If we are to justify homosexuality based on actions by animals than the door is opening to justify anything.

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Reply #111 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

Explain to us all, just to be clear, how does rape involve two consenting adults?

Undecided

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Reply #112 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:06pm

Quantum wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:08pm:

Which totally missed the point. The argument that was being put forward was that since homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom then it is perfectly natural for humans as well.

And so far that hasnt been refuted.

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However, if we take our cues from the animals as to what is right or wrong, then;

Rape happens in the animal kingdom. Rape must be fine.

Rape is an act of violence and there is a clear victim and that victim is massively traumatised by the experience.

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Incest happens in the animal kingdom. Incest must be fine.

Well, depending on where you live, it is fine.

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Bestiality (two different species) happens in the animal kingdom. Bestiality must be fine.

Prove it. I dont believe you.

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Paedophilia (an older animal having sex with - what would be by human standards considered under age - a younger animal) happens in the animal kingdom. Paedophilia must be fine.

Again, Paedophilia is an act of violence and the younger party is usually traumatised by the act. Also, prove that it happens in nature. Sexual maturity is a thing.

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Eating your mate after sex happens in the animal kingdom. Cannibalism after sex must be fine.

Again, and act of violence that traumatises one of the parties.

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There is a lot of stuff that happens in the animal world that we would not permit in human society.

Yeah, most of the violent ones.
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If we are to justify homosexuality based on actions by animals than the door is opening to justify anything.

Except the violent ones.

The whole thrust of the "it occurs in nature" argument is to show that the right wing buggerstick "its not natural" argument is complete bollocks.

Look, if you want to be so smacking pig ignorant that you think society cant tell the difference between an act of love between two consenting adults, and rape, then just bugger off. There is no place for you here.

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Reply #113 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

Explain to us all, just to be clear, how does rape involve two consenting adults?

Undecided

When one's a Yarpie dick, the consent is implicit.

Social contract, innit.

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donincognito Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1090	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #114 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:30pm Karnal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:09pm: When one's a Yarpir dick, the consent is implicit. Social contract, innit. No, implicit consent is one step away from rape.
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Reply #115 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:41pm

donincognito wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:01am:

... wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 9:07am:

Oh FFS. This nonsese gets reaaaaal tiresome.
red/green colour blindness has a similar prevalence as homosexuality. And yet, colour blindness is not 'normal' is it?

Perhaps what your problem is, is that you equate "normal" with "good".

Yet we dont consider colour blind people to be second class citizen, and make it so they cannot marry the people they love, and force them to be disadvantaged in so many ways.

Why is that?

actually, colourblind people are discriminated against much more than gay people.

For example, gay people aren't forbidden from being electricians or pilots, yet colourblind people are. Obviously they would be allowed to marry, just the same as everyone else, since their disability has nothing to do with marriage or attraction.

Name some of these "so many ways" in which gay people are disadvantaged.

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Reply #116 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

Explain to us all, just to be clear, how does rape involve two consenting adults?

Undecided

Explain to us all, just to be clear, where 'consent' figured in the initial statement that that was a response to?

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Reply #117 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:48pm

... wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:41pm:

donincognito wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 11:01am:

... wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 9:07am:

Oh FFS. This nonsese gets reaaaaal tiresome.
red/green colour blindness has a similar prevalence as homosexuality. And yet, colour blindness is not 'normal' is it?

Perhaps what your problem is, is that you equate "normal" with "good".

Yet we dont consider colour blind people to be second class citizen, and make it so they cannot marry the people they love, and force them to be disadvantaged in so many ways.

Why is that?

actually, colourblind people are discriminated against much more than gay people.

For example, gay people aren't forbidden from being electricians or pilots, yet colourblind people are. Obviously they would be allowed to marry, just the same as everyone else, since their disability has nothing to do with marriage or attraction..

Not exactly, Honky. How would they be able to choose the colour of the bridesmaids dresses?

You tell me that.

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Reply #118 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:56pm

donincognito wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:06pm:

Quantum wrote Today at 12:08pm:
Which totally missed the point. The argument that was being put forward was that since homosexuality happens in the animal kingdom then it is perfectly natural for humans as well.

And so far that hasnt been refuted.

Homosexuality is "natural". So what?
So is colourblindness. So is syphilis.

But marriage isn't.

donincognito wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:06pm:

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Bestiality (two different species) happens in the animal kingdom. Bestiality must be fine.

Prove it. I dont believe you.

proven.

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Reply #119 - Jun 21^st, 2013 at 2:37pm

... wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 21^st, 2013 at 8:48am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 11:50pm:

It has happened since the dawn of time - not only in our species, but many other species too.

How is this not normal?

So has rape.
Shall we class that normal too?

Explain to us all, just to be clear, how does rape involve two consenting adults?

Undecided

Explain to us all, just to be clear, where 'consent' figured in the initial statement that that was a response to?

Certainly.

It started off here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1371594464/94#94

"And you take this to be proof that arsefvcking was 'normal'?"

Nothing there to suggest he's talking about non-consensual "arsefvcking".

However, if that's where you mind immediately goes, well ... that says an awful lot.

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