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Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Jun 19^th, 2013 at 8:27am

Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again

Liberal party senator Cory Bernardi has claimed Australia’s movement for the legalisation of polygamy and bestiality “is happening” because of support for same-sex marriage, saying the comments which led to him stepping down as a parliamentary secretary last year were correct.

Bernardi told Fairfax Media he had been proven right on a number of controversial statements, including that climate change is not man-made and same-sex marriage leads to bestiality and polygamous marriages.

“If we go back to what I suggested in the parliament when the same-sex marriage debate came up, there is actually now a petition being put put together for the parliament by green activists to recognise multi-member unions,” he said.

“Now I said that would happen. It’s happening. We haven’t even taken the first step.

“Now I think there should be alarm. If you’re going to redefine a word to satisfy demands of a minority then you are going to face continuing demands in that space.”

The petition he refers to, from the Polyaction Amory Lobby, reportedly has about 25 signatures.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality

How do we know this petition wasn't set up by the ultra right and signed by ultra right members so to try and push their hate of human equality.

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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #1 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:50am

A whole 25 signatures - lets change the world then!

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/south-australia/voters-punish-sa-senator-cory-bernardi-for-comments-linking-gay-marriage-to-bestiality-and-polygamy/story-fnii5yv4-1226665950595

Looks like voters are punishing him anyway:
A recent Lonergan Research poll of almost 1700 people obtained by The Advertiser found that his original comments on bestiality may work against the Liberal Party in September's election.
The poll found 72 per cent of voters felt that his statements "made them less likely to vote for the Liberal Party". The remainder picked the only other choice, and said they were more likely to vote Liberal.

72% of voters are against what he says - it must be confusing when your no longer in the silent majority and people are actually turned off by your beliefs.

Maybe he should crawl back under the rock he came out of.

I have to wonder how sick someone has to be to think about bestiality and incest and compare it to marriage equality.

Then again - he is conservative and as we've seen in the u.s, those who tout family values and are actively against marriage equality get found out as either gay themselves or into some kinky stuff.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #2 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:53am It's a fair comment to make. Just because you can, doesn't mean you do.
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #3 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 10:15am Hmmm, what next I wonder???
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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #4 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 1:39pm

Swagman wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

It's a fair comment to make.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you do.

Hmmmmmm - Show me the links between marriage equality and incest/bestiality in other countries!

It's not a "fair" comment to make, it has no basis in reality and shouldn't be entertained.

Are you really comparing marriage equality to these things?

Show me the peer reviewed study that backs this up.

What next - women working, voting and driving?

Black and white people getting married?

Anyone would think it was 1950 - it's 2013 and I thought we had gotten passed this shite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgTuL1Iwok

Those poor Christians!

A giant temper tantrum that they have to share their toys - couldn't agree more.

It's like you can't go around vilifying large subsets of the community any more.

Your not homophobic, you just don't like gay people, don't want us to be considered as normal, don't want us to have relationship recognition.

We should really be more tolerant of those against marriage equality - it's not like they can get married and have all of the rights we don't!

You've convinced me - gay people are being so selfish, haven't they thought of the children.

It's not like 1/2 of all couples get divorced within 7 years anyway.

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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #5 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:01pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 1:39pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:53am:

It's a fair comment to make.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you do.

Hmmmmmm - Show me the links between marriage equality and incest/bestiality in other countries!

It's not a "fair" comment to make, it has no basis in reality and shouldn't be entertained.

Are you really comparing marriage equality to these things?

Show me the peer reviewed study that backs this up.

What next - women working, voting and driving?

Black and white people getting married?

Anyone would think it was 1950 - it's 2013 and I thought we had gotten passed this shite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgTuL1Iwok

Those poor Christians!

A giant temper tantrum that they have to share their toys - couldn't agree more.

It's like you can't go around vilifying large subsets of the community any more.

Your not homophobic, you just don't like gay people, don't want us to be considered as normal, don't want us to have relationship recognition.

We should really be more tolerant of those against marriage equality - it's not like they can get married and have all of the rights we don't!

You've convinced me - gay people are being so selfish, haven't they thought of the children.

It's not like 1/2 of all couples get divorced within 7 years anyway.

It's a fair comment because he has every right to say it.

You may not like it, lots of other people might not like it but that's not the point.

Incest, relations with beasts, flora, inanimate objects or whatever are all just social taboos that have evolved over time.

If society relaxes its attitude to one taboo (gay marriage for example) then why given time wouldn't it relax its attitudes to other taboos, regardless of how disgusting or ghastly they are.

Huh

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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #6 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:30pm

____ wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 8:27am:

Cory Bernardi links same-sex marriage to polygamy and bestiality again

Liberal party senator Cory Bernardi has claimed Australia’s movement for the legalisation of polygamy and bestiality “is happening” because of support for same-sex marriage, saying the comments which led to him stepping down as a parliamentary secretary last year were correct.

Bernardi told Fairfax Media he had been proven right on a number of controversial statements, including that climate change is not man-made and same-sex marriage leads to bestiality and polygamous marriages.

“If we go back to what I suggested in the parliament when the same-sex marriage debate came up, there is actually now a petition being put put together for the parliament by green activists to recognise multi-member unions,” he said.

“Now I said that would happen. It’s happening. We haven’t even taken the first step.

“Now I think there should be alarm. If you’re going to redefine a word to satisfy demands of a minority then you are going to face continuing demands in that space.”

The petition he refers to, from the Polyaction Amory Lobby, reportedly has about 25 signatures.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/18/cory-bernardi-same-sex-bestiality

How do we know this petition wasn't set up by the ultra right and signed by ultra right members so to try and push their hate of human equality.

Cory Bernardi is a half-wit, as is his leader.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #7 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:38pm Lets be fair..Bernardis only gay friend is Alan Jones so its no wonder he links bestiality with the gay lifestyle.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #8 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:42pm So we're still pretending we don't understand the basis of the analogy eh?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #9 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:57pm Attraction and/or intercourse with animals is abnormal behaviour. Attraction and/or intercourse with people of the same gender is abnormal behaviour. Link? Damn right there is. Both are abnormal. No matter how polite you want to be these days.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #10 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 5:07pm So if a man has sex with a male goat is that a double negative?
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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #11 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 5:16pm

Swagman wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

[quote author=meck01 link=1371594464/4#4 date=1371613161]

If society relaxes its attitude to one taboo (gay marriage for example) then why given time wouldn't it relax its attitudes to other taboos, regardless of how disgusting or ghastly they are.

Exactly. We relaxed the taboo on disturbing the media spirits. Now look at us.

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Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality
Reply #12 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 5:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Attraction and/or intercourse with animals is abnormal behaviour.

Attraction and/or intercourse with people of the same gender is abnormal behaviour.

Link?
Damn right there is.

Both are abnormal. No matter how polite you want to be these days.

So, would you allow marriage between a straight man and this woman?

"Attraction and/or intercourse" with that woman wouldn't be "abnormal behaviour" for you?

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #13 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 5:35pm Oh, I thought this must have been another Matty thread. Matty has been lobbying for marriage equality between man and his beast too.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38853 Gender:	Re: Ultra Right Links Bestiality~Marriage Equality Reply #14 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 5:37pm Back to the OP....... If anyone can demonstrate (with links) that legalising same sex marriage will lead to legalising bestiality, I'd be obliged and astonished.
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