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Is free trade killing off aussie businesses ? (Read 4367 times)
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Reply #30 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 3:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 2:02pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:33pm:
Thanks Nail,
yes - that's the Today Tonight video:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/consumer/article/-/17695681/crops-up-in-f...

I hope Freediver watches it.

Forget about BigOl - he's just a troll.





Bighole wants to argue just for the sake of arguing as usual. I told him that I source most of my stuff from aldis not because it is cheaper but because it is reasonable quality and a lot of it is sourced locally from suppliers who get paid on time !!

but bighole shops at coles and woolies which source their produce on the cheap from china where they use human manure as fertilizer. No wonder he talks a lot of sh.t Cheesy



Very true Nail,
all the Govt. needs to do is to protect certain industries just like the Europeans & Yanks do.
They call it free trade but they do protect certain industries & especially farmers.
Farmers are going out of business for the sake of a few cents price difference in their products.


In Malaysia they have their very own car industry called Proton !! At the same time they protect it with huge tariffs on ALL imported cars whether they are luxury or not. Guess what ? A lot of people still buy imported cars and luxury ones such as Mercs, Lexus and BMW's etc. But on the flip-side a lot of people buy the local Proton cars. Maybe not the most refined car but they work and a lot of taxi drivers use them.

Now the key difference between Malaysia and Australia is that Malaysia OWNS it own car brand whereas Australia does not and takes its orders from abroad and that is why Ford is going broke for not being allowed to make the right cars and export them to other countries whereas Proton doesn't have those restrictions Sad


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Re: Is free trade killing off aussie businesses ?
Reply #31 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 4:47pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 3:52pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 2:02pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:33pm:
Thanks Nail,
yes - that's the Today Tonight video:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/consumer/article/-/17695681/crops-up-in-f...

I hope Freediver watches it.

Forget about BigOl - he's just a troll.





Bighole wants to argue just for the sake of arguing as usual. I told him that I source most of my stuff from aldis not because it is cheaper but because it is reasonable quality and a lot of it is sourced locally from suppliers who get paid on time !!

but bighole shops at coles and woolies which source their produce on the cheap from china where they use human manure as fertilizer. No wonder he talks a lot of sh.t Cheesy



Very true Nail,
all the Govt. needs to do is to protect certain industries just like the Europeans & Yanks do.
They call it free trade but they do protect certain industries & especially farmers.
Farmers are going out of business for the sake of a few cents price difference in their products.


In Malaysia they have their very own car industry called Proton !! At the same time they protect it with huge tariffs on ALL imported cars whether they are luxury or not. Guess what ? A lot of people still buy imported cars and luxury ones such as Mercs, Lexus and BMW's etc. But on the flip-side a lot of people buy the local Proton cars. Maybe not the most refined car but they work and a lot of taxi drivers use them.

Now the key difference between Malaysia and Australia is that Malaysia OWNS it own car brand whereas Australia does not and takes its orders from abroad and that is why Ford is going broke for not being allowed to make the right cars and export them to other countries whereas Proton doesn't have those restrictions Sad





Hi Nail,
but in Malaysia they have clever Govts.

We have a bunch of idiots here:

For instance - Bill Shorten is retarded - 


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Reply #32 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 2:37pm:
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yeh just like you said i was lying about the latex foam pillow that you could buy for $25 at bigw Sad

bugger off mate. no wonder you were voted 2nd worst troller on this forum Sad



Once again another lie.

I have no doubt you paid $25 dollars for some piece of sh1t chinese product, what I did say is that it was not the same quality as the more expensive item, because it was not the same product.

See when you tell so many lies you can't remember what the bugger you said.

Here's something, try telling the truth, for something different.


Pointing out someone is an idiot who is totally clueless doesn't make one a troll. Laughing the death or misfortune of others, try looking at pansi if you want trolling.




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Reply #33 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 5:15pm
 
BigOl - you're so boring.

Increase the dose of your Prozac.
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Reply #34 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 6:46pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 4:56pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 2:37pm:
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yeh just like you said i was lying about the latex foam pillow that you could buy for $25 at bigw Sad

bugger off mate. no wonder you were voted 2nd worst troller on this forum Sad



Once again another lie.

I have no doubt you paid $25 dollars for some piece of sh1t chinese product, what I did say is that it was not the same quality as the more expensive item, because it was not the same product.

See when you tell so many lies you can't remember what the bugger you said.

Here's something, try telling the truth, for something different.


Pointing out someone is an idiot who is totally clueless doesn't make one a troll. Laughing the death or misfortune of others, try looking at pansi if you want trolling.



you said I was lying about the low price and I proved you wrong because I had seen both of them and there was no difference between the two in terms of quality and you hadn't seen either of them. Now you are back peddling and making excuses like the fricken weasel that you are. I find it hard to believe that you were anything but the shoe shine boy in the armed forces just going around listening to everyone else's gossip.
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Reply #35 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 7:27pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 21st, 2013 at 11:27pm:
If you believe the politicians then free trade only benefits us and nobody else !!

So how come all of the fruit growers are having to kill off their crops and set fire to them just because it is no longer viable to can fruit in this country when the imported stuff is clealrly of inferior quality ?


The Aussie farmer (the most destructive feral on the face of the planet) motto is: 'If there's not a quick buck in it burn it, bulldoze it or shoot it.' Spitefully destroying crops & livestock is an Aussie farming tradition.

We pay outrageous prices for fresh fruit & veg. in this country, and it's not just the supermarkets fault. High prices attract cheaper imports. Aussie is pricing himself out of existence. Dick Smith can go to hell with his nationalistic buy Aussie crap. Aussie prices are outrageous enough with 'free trade', what in hell would they like without it?


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Are we destroying our traditional manufacturing and production industries in exchange for propping up our resources sectors ? It seems that way and it proves that free trade is anything but free Sad Something has to be sacrificed in the free trade deals and it looks like the traditional manufacturing and agricultural production is being sacrificed in exchange for selling a whole pile of unprocessed minerals to other countries.

Are the politicians selling us out whilst making sure their foreign mates Toyota, Holden and Ford survive the free trade Holocaust ?

Free trade it's free for us and free for them Cheesy

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Reply #36 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:43pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 3:52pm:
But on the flip-side a lot of people buy the local Proton cars. Maybe not the most refined car but they work and a lot of taxi drivers use them.


Are these cars safe? Cars in Australia have to pass certain safety standards. Do Proton cars pass those tests?

I just heard recently from someone here (I think it was longweekend) that Malaysia has lousy drivers. It would be no surprise then that they'd have substandard cars. Malaysia's level of civilisation is apparently lower than Australia's.
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Reply #37 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:48pm
 
Mnemonic wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:43pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 3:52pm:
But on the flip-side a lot of people buy the local Proton cars. Maybe not the most refined car but they work and a lot of taxi drivers use them.


Are these cars safe? Cars in Australia have to pass certain safety standards. Do Proton cars pass those tests?

I just heard recently from someone here (I think it was longweekend) that Malaysia has lousy drivers. It would be no surprise then that they'd have substandard cars. Malaysia's level of civilisation is apparently lower than Australia's.


Yes proton is sold in Australia so must pass ADR Wink
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Reply #38 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:53pm
 
GA wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 7:27pm:
The Aussie farmer (the most destructive feral on the face of the planet) motto is: 'If there's not a quick buck in it burn it, bulldoze it or shoot it.' Spitefully destroying crops & livestock is an Aussie farming tradition.


It's not a surprise to me if they're renting the land. They can't afford to keep their "assets" in storage anymore and they can't put it anywhere else (it's illegal), so it's better to destroy it. Blame the laws we have. Without them, we wouldn't have civilisation. My cows would cross over the fence and run over your sheep due to poor infrastructure. Less developed countries simply don't care. If my cows run over your sheep it's your problem, not mine. That's why their products are cheaper. Cheesy
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Reply #39 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:56pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 9:48pm:
Yes proton is sold in Australia so must pass ADR Wink


It must be their lower labour costs then.
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Reply #40 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 11:41pm
 
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does that include cutting down our pear trees because imported pears are a few cents cheaper?


There are lots of reasons for cutting down fruit trees. Lack of profit is just part of it.

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I saw it on Today tonight on Thursday night


I guess it must be true then.

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Actually you have stated on more than one occasion you only buy cheap and as we all know cheap comes from OS where they pay children a few cents a day to make crap for the likes of you.

I buy Australian when it is available and I don't whinge about price, because I know it employs people and helps Aussie businesses. You and you cheap mates are the ones at fault here. Screwing Aussie businesses  to save yourself a few dollars.

Lie all you like, your long history of posts are the ones that show your true feelings toward Aussie businesses and their employees.

Keep buying cheap junk for overseas suppliers, but don't be a scumbag hypocrite and show bullsh1t feelings for the Aussie businesses and workers you bugger over.


I buy the cheapest item I can usually, and I am happy if that helps out dirt poor struggling foreign workers rather than whinging Aussies who think everyone owes them.
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Reply #41 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 11:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:33pm:
Thanks Nail,
yes - that's the Today Tonight video:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/consumer/article/-/17695681/crops-up-in-f...

I hope Freediver watches it.

Forget about BigOl - he's just a troll.





Freediver,
did you watch the video above?
It's heartbreaking to see all those trees bulldozed & burnt.
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Reply #42 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 11:51pm
 
If they burnt them at the same time, it probably means they had been dead for a while. It's hard to compete against cheap imports with dead trees, isn't it? Maybe we should give the farmers some more sit down money on account of their plight?
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Reply #43 - Jun 23rd, 2013 at 12:07am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 11:51pm:
If they burnt them at the same time, it probably means they had been dead for a while. It's hard to compete against cheap imports with dead trees, isn't it? Maybe we should give the farmers some more sit down money on account of their plight?



So you're saying that that farmer is a liar?
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Reply #44 - Jun 23rd, 2013 at 5:18am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 6:46pm:
you said I was lying about the low price and I proved you wrong because I had seen both of them and there was no difference between the two in terms of quality and you hadn't seen either of them. Now you are back peddling and making excuses like the fricken weasel that you are. I find it hard to believe that you were anything but the shoe shine boy in the armed forces just going around listening to everyone else's gossip.




Once again you are lying, never said anything of the sort. I said the only a moron (you0 would believe the two different items, even with similar name are the same thing and therefore demand they be the same price.

You never proved they were the same item, you only prove they were similar as in they were both pillows. You even provided evidence that they were not the same thing, not that you understood that.

But the important thing is you made sure that you bought the cheap one, made in some nasty chinese sweatshop. Which is what this thread is about POS like you that deliberately buy cheap imports instead of considering the impact on Australian businesses and workers.


Just so you don't continue to act like a total tosser, there is no job in the ADF of shoe shine boy, even if there was you wouldn't be smart enough to do it.  Smiley


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