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Reply #60 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:07pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:53pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:46pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 6:32pm:

@gazmo
1) The implications are just too confronting Less confronting than it will be when we waste time try to stop something we can't stop, when we should have been adapting to it

I think you might be a 1

I also see warming as inevitable however I do readily accept that its happening

As do I mike...I just don't think that human technology is the cause, or even a partial cause.

No. You don't think at all. We have established that.

You simply parrot whatever Bolt or Jones or whatever silly blogs you read tells you.

As you have shown us here when you lied about the UK Met Office reporting that there has been "no warming for 16 years"

Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

The UK Met Office reported no such thing.

You read it in a stupid column in a British tabloid and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And now - confronted with the reality that you were caught telling lies - you seem to just want to run away from that fact.

No Rabbit, you have no idea what I believe, because you are so ideologically blinded, you can't even seem to comprehend what people post.

But just for the others here, the 16 year 'pause' in warming (which EVEN the mighty Phil Jones acknowledges) is fairly solid proof that the warming is <80% natural, if it was being 'driven' by Co2, there could only be a pause or slowing if the Co2 rate slowed, which it hasn't.
So, if the 'driver' stays constant, and the result fluctuates that is an indication that there's something else at play.

( after all, the water doesn't get hotter when the stove is turned off)

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Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite!
Reply #61 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:10pm

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Well Gizometer we could take the temperature of other planets in our solar system, or even our own moon and see if the Sun is contributing to the increase in temperature.

But even then if we proved it was caused by the Sun, wouldent we want to try something to keep our cool?

Perhaps even with more incoming solar radiation we could lower temps by lowering CO2

Given that I saw a report from a NASA research unit today that stated just the opposite (Co2 and Nitrogen, I believe) act together to reflect incoming solar radiation out into space. SO reducing the Co2 would, according to that report, actually increase warming..

And just for you rabbitoh, I'll have a look for the link later.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #62 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Well Gizometer we could take the temperature of other planets in our solar system, or even our own moon and see if the Sun is contributing to the increase in temperature.

But even then if we proved it was caused by the Sun, wouldent we want to try something to keep our cool?

Perhaps even with more incoming solar radiation we could lower temps by lowering CO2

Given that I saw a report from a NASA research unit today that stated just the opposite (Co2 and Nitrogen, I believe) act together to reflect incoming solar radiation out into space. SO reducing the Co2 would, according to that report, actually increase warming..

And just for you rabbitoh, I'll have a look for the link later.

http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-s...

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Reply #63 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Well Gizometer we could take the temperature of other planets in our solar system, or even our own moon and see if the Sun is contributing to the increase in temperature.

But even then if we proved it was caused by the Sun, wouldent we want to try something to keep our cool?

Perhaps even with more incoming solar radiation we could lower temps by lowering CO2

Given that I saw a report from a NASA research unit today that stated just the opposite (Co2 and Nitrogen, I believe) act together to reflect incoming solar radiation out into space. SO reducing the Co2 would, according to that report, actually increase warming..

And just for you rabbitoh, I'll have a look for the link later.

http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-s...

Yes, that's the one..thanks greggary
Although the one I found was:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite! Reply #64 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:21pm http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-study-proves-carbon-dioxide-cools-atmosphere.html Deniers!
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite! Reply #65 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:22pm I bet they have been bribed by big oil ... probably reckon smokings good for you too.
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Reply #66 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:32pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:07pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:53pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:46pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 6:32pm:

@gazmo
1) The implications are just too confronting Less confronting than it will be when we waste time try to stop something we can't stop, when we should have been adapting to it

I think you might be a 1

I also see warming as inevitable however I do readily accept that its happening

As do I mike...I just don't think that human technology is the cause, or even a partial cause.

No. You don't think at all. We have established that.

You simply parrot whatever Bolt or Jones or whatever silly blogs you read tells you.

As you have shown us here when you lied about the UK Met Office reporting that there has been "no warming for 16 years"

Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

The UK Met Office reported no such thing.

You read it in a stupid column in a British tabloid and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And now - confronted with the reality that you were caught telling lies - you seem to just want to run away from that fact.

No Rabbit, you have no idea what I believe, because you are so ideologically blinded, you can't even seem to comprehend what people post.

But just for the others here, the 16 year 'pause' in warming (which EVEN the mighty Phil Jones acknowledges) is fairly solid proof that the warming is <80% natural, if it was being 'driven' by Co2, there could only be a pause or slowing if the Co2 rate slowed, which it hasn't.
So, if the 'driver' stays constant, and the result fluctuates that is an indication that there's something else at play.

( after all, the water doesn't get hotter when the stove is turned off)

Where is this report from the Uk Met that says there has been "no warming for 16 years"

Come on liar

We are waiting liar

Let's see it liar

Show us this "report" - or admit that you are an ignorant little turd that has fallen hook, line and sinker for a bit of nonsense in a column in a British tabloid, and are too stupid to tell the difference between fact and fiction.

This is what happens when you let shock-jocks do your thinking for you. You end up making an idiot of yourself.

And as for this:
(which EVEN the mighty Phil Jones acknowledges)
WTF?!?! You are now making your lie worse by implying that Phil Jones said there has been "no warming for 16 years"?!?!?

Don't you know when to stop?

You better show us evidence of this too, Liar.

Let's see the "report" from the UK Met Office that says there has been "no warming for 16 years", and a quote from Phil Jones that says there has been "no warming for 16 years".

And please - let's see actual evidence of these things. Not some stupid opinion piece from the Daily Mail that you have got 2nd or 3rd hand from Bolt or Jones or someone.

We are waiting Liar.

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rabbitoh07 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2783 Gender:	Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite! Reply #68 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:57pm Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:46pm: He's losing it ... no global warming for 16 years will do that to a crazy climate kook though Let's see the "report" from the UK Met Office that says there has been "no warming for 16 years" The other liar can't show us. Can you?
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Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite!
Reply #69 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 9:00pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 6:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 8:13pm:

but I do know that when my doctor tells me I'm sick, I listen to him ... when my accountant tells me to claim something, I listen to him ... when my lawyer tells me to do something, I listen to him too, ....

For that analogy to work in the context of global warming your doctor would have to tell you you had six months to live ... ten years ago, your accountant would have to tell you that you'll get a big refund cheque only to get a tax office bill instead and your lawyer to tell you you'd get a suspended sentence but ya got ten years Grin

rubbish . I don't believe I've heard any scientist say the world is coming to an end. It is more like a doctor saying if you don't change your habits you are at risk of developing high blood pressure or diabetes.

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Reply #70 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 9:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Well Gizometer we could take the temperature of other planets in our solar system, or even our own moon and see if the Sun is contributing to the increase in temperature.

But even then if we proved it was caused by the Sun, wouldent we want to try something to keep our cool?

Perhaps even with more incoming solar radiation we could lower temps by lowering CO2

Given that I saw a report from a NASA research unit today that stated just the opposite (Co2 and Nitrogen, I believe) act together to reflect incoming solar radiation out into space. SO reducing the Co2 would, according to that report, actually increase warming..

And just for you rabbitoh, I'll have a look for the link later.

http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-s...

Whoah!!! Greggery!!!

You really are diving into moonbat territory with that link!

Principia-Scientific!

Who are they when they are at home?!?!

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Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite!
Reply #71 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:07pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:53pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:46pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 6:32pm:

@gazmo
1) The implications are just too confronting Less confronting than it will be when we waste time try to stop something we can't stop, when we should have been adapting to it

I think you might be a 1

I also see warming as inevitable however I do readily accept that its happening

As do I mike...I just don't think that human technology is the cause, or even a partial cause.

No. You don't think at all. We have established that.

You simply parrot whatever Bolt or Jones or whatever silly blogs you read tells you.

As you have shown us here when you lied about the UK Met Office reporting that there has been "no warming for 16 years"

Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

The UK Met Office reported no such thing.

You read it in a stupid column in a British tabloid and you fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And now - confronted with the reality that you were caught telling lies - you seem to just want to run away from that fact.

No Rabbit, you have no idea what I believe, because you are so ideologically blinded, you can't even seem to comprehend what people post.

But just for the others here, the 16 year 'pause' in warming (which EVEN the mighty Phil Jones acknowledges) is fairly solid proof that the warming is <80% natural, if it was being 'driven' by Co2, there could only be a pause or slowing if the Co2 rate slowed, which it hasn't.
So, if the 'driver' stays constant, and the result fluctuates that is an indication that there's something else at play.

( after all, the water doesn't get hotter when the stove is turned off)

Where is this report from the Uk Met that says there has been "no warming for 16 years"

Come on liar

We are waiting liar

Let's see it liar

Show us this "report" - or admit that you are an ignorant little turd that has fallen hook, line and sinker for a bit of nonsense in a column in a British tabloid, and are too stupid to tell the difference between fact and fiction.

This is what happens when you let shock-jocks do your thinking for you. You end up making an idiot of yourself.

And as for this:
(which EVEN the mighty Phil Jones acknowledges)
WTF?!?! You are now making your lie worse by implying that Phil Jones said there has been "no warming for 16 years"?!?!?

Don't you know when to stop?

You better show us evidence of this too, Liar.

Let's see the "report" from the UK Met Office that says there has been "no warming for 16 years", and a quote from Phil Jones that says there has been "no warming for 16 years".

And please - let's see actual evidence of these things. Not some stupid opinion piece from the Daily Mail that you have got 2nd or 3rd hand from Bolt or Jones or someone.

We are waiting Liar.

Sorry rabbit, but I just can't be bothered anymore, even if I got Phil Jones to sent you a JP witnessed letter saying so, you'd still deny it because it clashes with you belief system.

There's no more point to responding to you, than there is to arguing evolution with a young earth creationist.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite!
Reply #72 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 11:14pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29pm:

Sorry rabbit, but I just can't be bothered anymore, even if I got Phil Jones to sent you a JP witnessed letter saying so, you'd still deny it because it clashes with you belief system.

There's no more point to responding to you, than there is to arguing evolution with a young earth creationist.

Yep - that is the usual liar response.

You tell a lie about the UK Met reporting that there has been no warming in 16 years

You are asked to substantiate this lie.

But you can't.
Because it is a lie.
I know that
You know that

And then you run away like the pathetic little liar that you are.

You could show us some evidence of this "report"
But you can't
Because it doesn't exist
You have spent 2 days searching for one - and you also know it doesn't exist
You were lying.
But you are too gutless to admit it.

A stupid lie by a tabloid columnist that you heard on the Alan Jones show or some similar distributer of crap - and because you are so stupid - you believe it

And now - when you are asked to explain it - you are too gutless to admit how gullible you have been.

Learn something here idiot.

The UK Met DID NOT report that there has been no warming in 16 years.

Stop telling lies.

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Re: Have a read of this hysterical shite!
Reply #73 - Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 11:16pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:46pm:

He's losing it Grin

... no global warming for 16 years will do that to a crazy climate kook though Cheesy

So what makes a liar like Gizmo tell the lies that he does?

The UK Met DID NOT report that there has been no warming in 16 years.

that was a lie he heard Alan Jones or someone say.

You seem to believe it too.

How stupid does that make you?

Got anything to say for yourself?

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Reply #74 - Jun 24^th, 2013 at 9:43am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 9:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

miketrees wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2013 at 7:56pm:

Well Gizometer we could take the temperature of other planets in our solar system, or even our own moon and see if the Sun is contributing to the increase in temperature.

But even then if we proved it was caused by the Sun, wouldent we want to try something to keep our cool?

Perhaps even with more incoming solar radiation we could lower temps by lowering CO2

Given that I saw a report from a NASA research unit today that stated just the opposite (Co2 and Nitrogen, I believe) act together to reflect incoming solar radiation out into space. SO reducing the Co2 would, according to that report, actually increase warming..

And just for you rabbitoh, I'll have a look for the link later.

http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-s...

Whoah!!! Greggery!!!

You really are diving into moonbat territory with that link!

Principia-Scientific!

Who are they when they are at home?!?!

They are the people with a direct link to the NASA report in the first few words of their story.

You do know who NASA are, don't you?

Let me guess though: you won't accept any report from NASA either.

That's the whole problem with AGW cult members: their minds are so closed that they will not even entertain the thought of even looking at anything that suggests that their hypothesis may be wrong.

In all my life, I have never come across a more closed-minded group of people than the AGW disciples. They are quite possibly the most unscientific people on the planet.

Personally, I remain completely open-minded: the AGW hypothesis may indeed be correct, and I may come to accept it in the future. I will continue to read any new information on the subject. I won't shoot the messenger. I won't refuse to read a report just because it goes against my current opinion.

Currently though, there's no credible convincing evidence that the AGW hypothesis is correct.

I remain open-minded though ...

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