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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #15 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:06pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:59pm: Hang em high. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Oh, there's a lot wrong with lowering oneself to accept premeditated state-sanctioned killing as a punishment. Anyway bobby, this video is much better:
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Reply #16 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:08pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

The only closure the immediate family of murder victims have is when the perpetrator dies.

Only if they choose too allow this person to run their lives.

Seriously their in prison not ideal maybe but still liberty is curtailed.

They get out, well retribution can be sort if so inclined.

Your only a victim if you allow yourself to be. (although in today's society everyone wants to be one, faux outrage & perceived hurt abounds Angry

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38690 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #17 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:13pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:59pm: Hang em high. Not that there is anything wrong with it. Atta boy Bobby!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #18 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:14pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:03pm: The only closure the immediate family of murder victims have is when the perpetrator dies. Oh "closure", please. Spare me the Oprah words.
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #19 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:14pm Plenty we should still drag out the back and put down like bad dogs. Milat, Knight, Bryant to name a few. BANG BANG BANG
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Reply #20 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Hang em high.

Not that there is anything wrong with it.

Oh, there's a lot wrong with lowering oneself to accept premeditated state-sanctioned killing as a punishment.

Anyway bobby, this video is much better:

My video was better.
That Irishman made a good speech.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #21 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:26pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:17pm: My video was better. That Irishman made a good speech. Come on bobby. Mine had a cowbell solo!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104630 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #22 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:17pm: My video was better. That Irishman made a good speech. Come on bobby. Mine had a cowbell solo! Mine showed the horror better.
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Reply #23 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:08pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

The only closure the immediate family of murder victims have is when the perpetrator dies.

Only if they choose too allow this person to run their lives.

It's not optional for the families, any more than it is optional for returned soldiers to have nightmares.

The thought that the person who raped and killed your daughter is alive and well and being taken good care of in a prison is bound to play on your mind.

Only with death does that resolve itself.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:08pm:

Your only a victim if you allow yourself to be.

You should be a psychiatrist.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #24 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:41pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:37pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:17pm: My video was better. That Irishman made a good speech. Come on bobby. Mine had a cowbell solo! Mine showed the horror better.
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Reply #25 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:42pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

Sorry, I should have clarified.

Yep, they're are some very strange folk in society: people who seem to think that premeditated state-sanctioned killing is acceptable as a form of punishment.

Ah! You see? You CAN modify your opinion if you really want to.

Too late for Kat though. He/she has long since decided to give his/her cerebral cortex a bypass on this subject. Too Hot to Handle, maybe. Some don't want to get offside with God, so ...

um, Greg ... our military personnel going into combat situations do NOT have a premeditated willingness to take life? They carry their guns in the hope of selling them to the local villagers for goat hunting and shooting lame donkeys... ? Cool

smack-all to do with God.

I don't support the DP. That's all I said, and it's all that needs to be said.

And, agree or disagree, that decision should be respected, not ridiculed or minimised.

I do not have to justify my reasons here, or anywhere else, and will not do so.

The put-down was totally unjustified.

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Reply #26 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:44pm

I remember late one night a man phoned up the Brian Wilshire talkback show on Radio 2GB.

They talked for a while, and then he was asked what his personal interest was in the subject.

He then admitted that many years ago he had killed a man who had molested his young daughter. He spoke very quietly, in a very relaxed way.

Brian asked if he had ever regretted doing what he'd done, and he said 'no'.

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Reply #27 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:58pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:44pm:

I remember late one night a man phoned up the Brian Wilshire talkback show on Radio 2GB.

They talked for a while, and then he was asked what his personal interest was in the subject.

He then admitted that many years ago he had killed a man who had molested his young daughter. He spoke very quietly, in a very relaxed way.

Brian asked if he had ever regretted doing what he'd done, and he said 'no'.

Did he catch the man in the act? If so, then I would assume most parents would do the same & good on them, I know I would.

Or did he just "THINK" it was him?

That is the core issue surrounding the death penalty.

There is no release with a "Sorry" at the end of it if new evidence comes to light.

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Reply #28 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 5:17pm

Kat wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

smack-all to do with God.

I don't support the DP. That's all I said,

Oh no. You said a lot more than that.

Your "always have and always will" was admitting to a closed mind.

It was an admission of you no longer being willing to exercise your intelligence or your intellect on the subject.

Seventh Day Adventists manifest the same stubbornness regarding refusal to permit blood transfusions for their dying offspring after car accidents.

"Never have and never will!" They chant proudly, in lockstep with biblical dogma.

Kat wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

... and it's all that needs to be said.

But this thread isn't a poll, is it? We're not looking for 'Yes' and 'No' polling here.

Debate, discussion, and the exchange of ideas and opinions is expected from anyone posting in this thread.

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Reply #29 - Jun 27^th, 2013 at 5:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

"The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd..."

Yep, they're are some very strange folk in society: people who seem to think that state-sanctioned killing is acceptable.

Takes all kinds I suppose.

and then there are the texans who arent even all that fixated on the idea of being sure they are guilty... or sane... or mentally competent...

200 people set free from death row by Project INnocence in only 13 years indicates that justice has a funny way of getting it wrong and the DP makes correcting those mistakes impossible.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Question: Do you support the death penalty?
yes 7 (50.0%) no 6 (42.9%) not sure 1 (7.1%) Total votes: 14 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:19pm »