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Reply #180 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:49am

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:01am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 9:07am:

ian wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

a 4 yo could pick the logical fallacy in that. to have error-free executions you have to have error-free due process in DP cases. That is impossible and you in fact stated such.

Nice twist duck and dive but you stated error free judicial process and I stated no such thing. And that is also not "due process" which in itself is the ability of an accused person to access all thier legal rights available under prevailing law.

you are a moron who cannot even formulate a logical and consistent argument. you should be executed for it.

surrender acknowledged

only a true dimwit makes such a comment. and you certainly fit the bill. Are you SOB's bastard child?

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Reply #181 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 7:48pm:

If you take the life of someone, then your life will be taken.

In less civilised societies, yes.

Australia, thankfully, is much more civilised than places like Texas.

We'll never see premeditated state-sanctioned killing used as punishment in this country again, under any government.

I think you are right. Every now and then there is a case - like Jill Meagher - which brings the sentiment to the fore but the Australian people do not have the stomach for killing people. We have seen too many miscarriages of justice to accept that the DP could be foolproof and too many other societies where the DP simply does not work beyond satisfying the bloodlust of the lower classes.

it is another reason why we live in one of the best and enlightened countries on the planet.

Absolutely.

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Reply #182 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Despite having a much higher rate of deaths and injuuries form firearms, the US has a much lower rate of violent crime overall than Australia. wonder how that can be.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime
Crime stats: Australia vs United States
Australian Crime stats
American Crime stats
Assault victims 2.4% 1.2%
Ranked 4th. 100% more than United States Ranked 11th.

LOL this from a drongo who doesnt accept the word of the Singapore Law society but quotes this site which is well known for its error-filled bogus statistics. Higher crime rate in australia in USA?? only a retard like you could beleive that.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #183 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:52am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

it is another reason why we live in one of the best and enlightened countries on the planet.

we are becoming a country of limp wqrists and soft cocks. Your posts illustrate that point perfectly. You would rather see a murderer or rapist walk free than compromise his or her civil rights.

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Reply #184 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:53am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Despite having a much higher rate of deaths and injuuries form firearms, the US has a much lower rate of violent crime overall than Australia. wonder how that can be.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime
Crime stats: Australia vs United States
Australian Crime stats
American Crime stats
Assault victims 2.4% 1.2%
Ranked 4th. 100% more than United States Ranked 11th.

LOL this from a drongo who doesnt accept the word of the Singapore Law society but quotes this site which is well known for its error-filled bogus statistics. Higher crime rate in australia in USA?? only a retard like you could beleive that.

I only used that site for convenience, I know the stats on this because I have previously studied it. Use any source you like.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #185 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:54am longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:49am: only a true dimwit makes such a comment. and you certainly fit the bill. Are you SOB's bastard child? When people resort to personal attacks rather than supply the evidence asked for, then I know I have won.
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Reply #186 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:56am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:32pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Bobby has the same view with me on death penalty
We have spoke before of it.

Correct bobby?

Correct Avram,
If you knew what: Julian Knight, Martin Bryant & Adrian Bayley did
then you would agree with me too.

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Reply #187 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

I think you are right. Every now and then there is a case - like Jill Meagher - which brings the sentiment to the fore but the Australian people do not have the stomach for killing people.

Yes, it was good to see Australia handle that case with some maturity.

That guy is a true monster, and he certainly doesn't deserve to be granted parole. I hope I never hear his name again.

However, we don't need to perpetuate the vicious cycle of violence.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #188 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:08pm because holding signs up and having a protest march will defintiely stop the sociopathic predators amongst us and they will mend their ways. The utter and complete naivete of some people in our society is absolutley mind boggling.
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Reply #189 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Despite having a much higher rate of deaths and injuuries form firearms, the US has a much lower rate of violent crime overall than Australia. wonder how that can be.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime
Crime stats: Australia vs United States
Australian Crime stats
American Crime stats
Assault victims 2.4% 1.2%
Ranked 4th. 100% more than United States Ranked 11th.

LOL this from a drongo who doesnt accept the word of the Singapore Law society but quotes this site which is well known for its error-filled bogus statistics. Higher crime rate in australia in USA?? only a retard like you could beleive that.

A "drongo" who doesn't accept the word of anyone, if it goes against his personal opinion.

Facts that contradict his own twisted views have no place in ian's life.

He's a worry.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #190 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:36pm ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:08pm: because holding signs up and having a protest march will defintiely stop the sociopathic predators amongst us and they will mend their ways. The utter and complete naivete of some people in our society is absolutley mind boggling.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104762 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #191 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:39pm
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #192 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 28^th, 2013 at 8:05pm:

You don't have time for morality when you pick up your dead women and children.

which is why you will always be picking them up. Someone has to break the cycle of revenge or else... you get what you have now.

That's exactly right.

Civilised societies don't perpetuate violence: they look for alternatives.

Someone has to have the balls to stop the killing.

The death penalty is the easy option: a quick "solution" for people who don't have the guts or intelligence to consider other options.

Thankfully, we Australians don't live in such a weak society.

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Reply #193 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 1:27pm

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:53am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Despite having a much higher rate of deaths and injuuries form firearms, the US has a much lower rate of violent crime overall than Australia. wonder how that can be.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia/United-States/Crime
Crime stats: Australia vs United States
Australian Crime stats
American Crime stats
Assault victims 2.4% 1.2%
Ranked 4th. 100% more than United States Ranked 11th.

LOL this from a drongo who doesnt accept the word of the Singapore Law society but quotes this site which is well known for its error-filled bogus statistics. Higher crime rate in australia in USA?? only a retard like you could beleive that.

I only used that site for convenience, I know the stats on this because I have previously studied it. Use any source you like.

no actually the onus is on YOU to provide stats that show the crime rate in USA lower than australia. but remember, we want gold-plated statistics as per YOUR standard.

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Reply #194 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 1:38pm

ian wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

because holding signs up and having a protest march will defintiely stop the sociopathic predators amongst us and they will mend their ways. The utter and complete naivete of some people in our society is absolutley mind boggling.

who else can smell the hint of BLOODLUST?

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