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Reply #210 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 3:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 3:45pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

"It is better ten guilty men go free, than one innocent man suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.

Very true.

But then nobody reported what he said next...

"It is better eleven guilty men get the rope, than fear of convicting one innocent man sets them free" - English jurist William Blackstone.

Very wise man. Cool

not reported because he didnt say it.

Surely advocates of the death penalty wouldn't tell lies in order to support their bloodlust-fueled "arguments".

Surely not.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #211 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance. Never allow a act to go unpunished. Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged. If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed. It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.
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Reply #212 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:04pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

Actually, it's the act of an extremely barbaric society fueled by vengeance instead of the desire for justice.

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Reply #213 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:06pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

it is the act of people who beg others to come and attack them. There is a bible verse (Old Testament) that directly opposes you position which says. "If all our iniquities were marked (punished), who would stand?"

Forgiveness is the key to life and was the fundamental message of Jesus. No wonder you didnt recognise the Messiah. You are too busy wreaking revenge on everyone

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #214 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:07pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

that could ONLY possibly be true if the DP were faultless. do you suggest otherwise? and if not then what error rate aer you willing to accept? 5% of executions being wrong? 10%?

just what is your acceptable error rate?

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Reply #215 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

Actually, it's the act of an extremely barbaric society fueled by vengeance instead of the desire for justice.

You get the other extreme. At the moment australia is being run by a pack of pussies who don't have the spine to mark hard decisions. People are running around laughing at our laws.

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Reply #216 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:13pm

Big Dave wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:04pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

Actually, it's the act of an extremely barbaric society fueled by vengeance instead of the desire for justice.

You get the other extreme. At the moment australia is being run by a pack of pussies who don't have the spine to mark hard decisions. People are running around laughing at our laws.

who? Ive not heard any international mocking at all. Given that we are the most desirable location on the planet that sounds like... made-up fantasy.

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Reply #217 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

that could ONLY possibly be true if the DP were faultless. do you suggest otherwise? and if not then what error rate aer you willing to accept? 5% of executions being wrong? 10%?

just what is your acceptable error rate?

The system is not faultless.

Our targeted removals have sometimes got the wrong person because the information was incorrect.

But there is a acceptable error rate. You cannot quantify it but more take it fr each case.

Of course there will be errors and this is not a good thing.
But the vengeance of the people must be brought.

You and I longweekend come from very different worlds. But my beliefs are the same everywhere.

"Understand this one thing. These people who committed this atrocity will hear from us. Not because we want it but because it is demanded as just vengeance. Their time on this earth has now come to an end and they will now have to run every day of their lives from us."

Golda Meir, Operation Wrath of God, 1972.

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Reply #218 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:12pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

The death penalty is a key part of a society where you must enact vengeance.

Never allow a act to go unpunished.
Never allow a act to not bring vengeance to the people wronged.

If you kill someone then you in turn must be killed.

It is the act of a just society who looks after its people.

that could ONLY possibly be true if the DP were faultless. do you suggest otherwise? and if not then what error rate aer you willing to accept? 5% of executions being wrong? 10%?

just what is your acceptable error rate?

The system is not faultless.

Our targeted removals have sometimes got the wrong person because the information was incorrect.

But there is a acceptable error rate. You cannot quantify it but more take it fr each case.

Of course there will be errors and this is not a good thing.
But the vengeance of the people must be brought.

You and I longweekend come from very different worlds. But my beliefs are the same everywhere.

"Understand this one thing. These people who committed this atrocity will hear from us. Not because we want it but because it is demanded as just vengeance. Their time on this earth has now come to an end and they will now have to run every day of their lives from us."

Golda Meir, Operation Wrath of God, 1972.

remind me agian of this when someone kills someone from your family by accident. I am sure you will just say it is the price of vengeance.

Which of course it is.

You will live with death and violence all the days of your life and mainly because you beg for it.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #219 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:16pm You live and die by the sword. You look at things different to me because of our different worlds.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #220 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:24pm They will never understand Avram, there are 3 types of people in this world. sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. They are the sheep who do not understand it is us who keep them from the wolves.
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Reply #221 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:33pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:16pm:

You live and die by the sword.

You look at things different to me because of our different worlds.

perhaps your world could be a little different if you took slightly less pleasure in killing and even *shock horror* an interest in the fates of innocents. Your support of the death penalty is clear but what I object to is your almost complete lack of interest in the deaths of innocents. You dont even have the decency to be upset about it.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #222 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:35pm

I'm sorry, but you cannot tell me this piece of filth deserves to live?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/17799539/aussie-gets-40-years-jai...

they bought a baby for the purposes of abusing it and then handed it from one pedo to another and did this for several years ..... if I could I would shoot the miserable son of a b1tch myself, although I would be careful to avoid anything fatal until he had suffered for at least a few days. Maybe just shoot him in each joint and then put him in a pit of hungry rats ....

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #223 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:43pm I agree with John Smith here . I would take this to the Sinai and leave in the sun all day
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Reply #224 - Jun 29^th, 2013 at 6:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 29^th, 2013 at 5:35pm:

I'm sorry, but you cannot tell me this piece of filth deserves to live?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/17799539/aussie-gets-40-years-jai...

they bought a baby for the purposes of abusing it and then handed it from one pedo to another and did this for several years ..... if I could I would shoot the miserable son of a b1tch myself, although I would be careful to avoid anything fatal until he had suffered for at least a few days. Maybe just shoot him in each joint and then put him in a pit of hungry rats ....

well John, we agree on something.

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