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Reply #495 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:13pm:

Avram's vengeance is understandable when you consider the part of the world he's in and the history of Jews. He also displays strong ethnic solidarity through seeking vengeance, which is common for Jews. Whites have no such ethnic solidarity; it has been eliminated through 50 years of 'education', therefore whites simply do not understand ethnic solidarity at all and the vengeance that comes with it when part of the group has been damaged by an outsider. In fact, we have the reverse attitude here: Solidarity and self-determination for all races and cultures except for whites.

Jews come in all colours, I am white and Jewish.

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

His mule headed attitude ensures there will never be peace for those who come after him.

It is blind, crazy and very, very sad.

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Reply #496 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:29pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 1:46pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 1:36pm:

Granted the softer member of our society who embrace a the group hug philosophy dealing with scumbags need to explain everything in extreme emotional terms, but it is nothing more that a legal process.

This is where your stupidity really shines through.

In your little mind there are two options: capital punishment, or group hugs. Your narrow-minded ignorance can not even imagine that there may be any alternatives in between.

Don't be too hard on yourself though: many advocates for state-sanctioned killing fall into the same trap.

As for myself, I don't need any tissues: I'm not shedding a tear over any "scumbag".

I'm opposed to premeditated state-sanctioned killing as a punishment. I'm not opposed to punishing criminals. See if you can spot the difference. Wink

Never said there were only two options ...

You were caught out. It's done now.

Learn to live with your mistakes.

And try to use rational thinking instead of irrational emotions when addressing topics like this. You'll be taken more seriously that way.

You continue to lie, even to the extent of misrepresenting posts. So lying is the only way you can move on from here, I also think we're done.

Remember you're the bleeding heart cry baby, carrying on like killing a scumbag will be the downfall of all society, instead of just the production of a dead scumbag. Grin

Lying and crying, jeez, Embarrassed

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Reply #497 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:31pm:

I hope the killer of Jill Meagher - Adrian Bayley -

gets some prison justice as per Carl Williams.

The only way we ever see justice is when the crooks do it for us.

Not an entirely unreasonable comment.

So you you don't mind that scumbags get tapped out, you don't want it done under controlled and managed processes as an official act of the state.

Turn our gaols into the Thunder Dome, killing for sh1ts and giggles among the prisoners.

Jeez no hypocrisy there.

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Reply #498 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:16pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:31pm:

I hope the killer of Jill Meagher - Adrian Bayley -

gets some prison justice as per Carl Williams.

The only way we ever see justice is when the crooks do it for us.

Not an entirely unreasonable comment.

Turn our gaols into the Thunder Dome, killing for sh1ts and giggles among the prisoners.

"Not an entirely unreasonable comment."

"Turn our gaols into the Thunder Dome, killing for sh1ts and giggles among the prisoners."

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Reply #499 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:01pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:14pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:10pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 1:11pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Milat, Bryant, knight, Deyner – there’s 4 we could drag out now and put down like bad dogs.

Angry

Bang Bang Bang Bang

A civilised nation does not use premeditated state-sanctioned killing as a punishment.

No matter how horrendous the crime or who the criminal is.

It's not a debate about individuals or particular crimes.

All civilized nations use premeditated state sanctioned punishments.

Really Einstein? Roll Eyes

They don't, however, use premeditated state-sanctioned killing as a punishment.

Huge difference. Huge.

And I’m saying they should.

Do try to keep up.

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Well if they did, they wouldn't be civilised.

capiche?

In your opinion.

Comprendez?

Yes, in my civilised opinion.

concordato

No

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137516 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #500 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:20pm BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:06pm: You continue to lie, even to the extent of misrepresenting posts. So lying is the only way you can move on from here, I also think we're done. You were caught out. You should have walked away with a little bit of dignity. That ship has sailed. Sorry.
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Reply #501 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:30pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:13pm:

Avram's vengeance is understandable when you consider the part of the world he's in and the history of Jews. He also displays strong ethnic solidarity through seeking vengeance, which is common for Jews. Whites have no such ethnic solidarity; it has been eliminated through 50 years of 'education', therefore whites simply do not understand ethnic solidarity at all and the vengeance that comes with it when part of the group has been damaged by an outsider. In fact, we have the reverse attitude here: Solidarity and self-determination for all races and cultures except for whites.

Jews come in all colours, I am white and Jewish.

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

His mule headed attitude ensures there will never be peace for those who come after him.

It is blind, crazy and very, very sad.

Yeah, I don't think if israel stops killing people the arabs will just let them live in peace.

Pretty much any sign of weakness or lack of resolve will see the end of the jewish state, pretty quick smart.

The arabs attitude to israel is no different now than it was in the 60's and 70's, just ask the president of iran if the existence of israel is acceptable.

When the amount of people who want to kill you vastly outnumber you, then being 'nice' isn't really an option.

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Reply #502 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:48pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm:

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

You're right, and it's difficult to comprehend why he doesn't understand that fact.

Or, it may be a case that he understands but doesn't really care. Death and vengeance are inevitable in his (horrible) world and since he's known nothing else he's accepted his fate. He quite literally knows no better.

All quite sad.

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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #503 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:07pm Guys, the game is over. The ref has blown his whistle and the crowd's gone home. The lights have been turned out, the hot dogs are cold and the beer warm. There will never be consensus as to the winner.
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #504 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:13pm:

Avram's vengeance is understandable when you consider the part of the world he's in and the history of Jews. He also displays strong ethnic solidarity through seeking vengeance, which is common for Jews. Whites have no such ethnic solidarity; it has been eliminated through 50 years of 'education', therefore whites simply do not understand ethnic solidarity at all and the vengeance that comes with it when part of the group has been damaged by an outsider. In fact, we have the reverse attitude here: Solidarity and self-determination for all races and cultures except for whites.

Jews come in all colours, I am white and Jewish.

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

His mule headed attitude ensures there will never be peace for those who come after him.

It is blind, crazy and very, very sad.

Ok this is not a subject on my homeland but let me tell you this once and so straight so it is clear.

I support the death penalty - why do i do so?
Because i believe that a killing can not go unavenged and that it is just retribution for taking lives - be this in attacks of terror or in murder circumstances.

Now just on the subject of my home.
Greggerypeccery it is a beautiful place. It is mostly peaceful and it has wonders which i invite you to come and see. It is the birthplace of civilization and of the biblical times - even your christian heroes they are here.

Now I grow up in Haifa - until I go into the IDF i see no fighting, no war, no terror in my personal life.
All you see is on the tv - this is the areas where many of us dont live. I see all this in my time in the army.

Now what of my views?
I support peace. I support reconciliation. I support giving some land in exchange for peace.

But i believe in retribution, i believe in avenging death, i believe in taking eye for a eye and never take a step back.

All of these things in its correct place.

I am the young generation of Israelis. We are prepared for peace but we are ready for war.
It is the arabs choice which they get.

Now return to the death penalty discussion please.

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Reply #505 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:19pm

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But i believe in retribution, i believe in avenging death, i believe in taking eye for a eye and never take a step back.

Problem with that theory especially in the ME......is......who took the first life and eye? And from there on, then violence becomes self propelling. Dumb.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

Oh look a 'death penalty' thread, at last!

http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/2036256304_1363262904.jpg

Agreed, Mr Freedman.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137516 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #506 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:20pm Socrates wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:03pm: Peccahead, why do you call Israel a sh1thole of a country? Have you ever been there? Yes (last February). Have you?
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #507 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:22pm You call the Holy Land a 'sh1thole'?
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Reply #508 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:20pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:06pm:

You continue to lie, even to the extent of misrepresenting posts. So lying is the only way you can move on from here, I also think we're done.

You were caught out.

You should have walked away with a little bit of dignity.

That ship has sailed.

Sorry.

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Having a gif doesn't make your lies any more plausible.

You're liar, nothing more and probably considerably less.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #509 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:23pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm: Now I grow up in Haifa Have you been to the Universal House of Justice on Mt Carmel? I hope to visit it someday.
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Question: Do you support the death penalty?
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