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Reply #540 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 5:48pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:51pm:

It might be offensive, the truth often is to those that don't wish to hear it.

Nup, it's just offensive and that is all it was meant to be; so well done

Your entitled to your opinion, their like assholes, everyone has one.

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Reply #541 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:31pm:

I hope the killer of Jill Meagher - Adrian Bayley -

gets some prison justice as per Carl Williams.

The only way we ever see justice is when the crooks do it for us.

Not an entirely unreasonable comment.

Well - the limp wristed judges aren't allowed to give the DP
so the crooks do it instead.
Apparently the crooks have some sort of honor system
& they don't like murderers, rapists, women bashers & pedophiles.

a murderer killed by a murderer is not an honour system and anyone who thinks so clearly has little idea what HONOUR actually means. Unless of course you think Islamic Honour Killings re righteous??

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #542 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:15pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:30pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:13pm:

Avram's vengeance is understandable when you consider the part of the world he's in and the history of Jews. He also displays strong ethnic solidarity through seeking vengeance, which is common for Jews. Whites have no such ethnic solidarity; it has been eliminated through 50 years of 'education', therefore whites simply do not understand ethnic solidarity at all and the vengeance that comes with it when part of the group has been damaged by an outsider. In fact, we have the reverse attitude here: Solidarity and self-determination for all races and cultures except for whites.

Jews come in all colours, I am white and Jewish.

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

His mule headed attitude ensures there will never be peace for those who come after him.

It is blind, crazy and very, very sad.

Yeah, I don't think if israel stops killing people the arabs will just let them live in peace.

Pretty much any sign of weakness or lack of resolve will see the end of the jewish state, pretty quick smart.

The arabs attitude to israel is no different now than it was in the 60's and 70's, just ask the president of iran if the existence of israel is acceptable.

When the amount of people who want to kill you vastly outnumber you, then being 'nice' isn't really an option.

never heard of Ghandi??? not exactly a failure now, was he?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #543 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:17pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 3:05pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 2:13pm:

Avram's vengeance is understandable when you consider the part of the world he's in and the history of Jews. He also displays strong ethnic solidarity through seeking vengeance, which is common for Jews. Whites have no such ethnic solidarity; it has been eliminated through 50 years of 'education', therefore whites simply do not understand ethnic solidarity at all and the vengeance that comes with it when part of the group has been damaged by an outsider. In fact, we have the reverse attitude here: Solidarity and self-determination for all races and cultures except for whites.

Jews come in all colours, I am white and Jewish.

What Avram doesn't understand is that so long as his people seek vengeance and his enemies do the same, the killing will go on and on.

His mule headed attitude ensures there will never be peace for those who come after him.

It is blind, crazy and very, very sad.

Ok this is not a subject on my homeland but let me tell you this once and so straight so it is clear.

I support the death penalty - why do i do so?
Because i believe that a killing can not go unavenged and that it is just retribution for taking lives - be this in attacks of terror or in murder circumstances.

Now just on the subject of my home.
Greggerypeccery it is a beautiful place. It is mostly peaceful and it has wonders which i invite you to come and see. It is the birthplace of civilization and of the biblical times - even your christian heroes they are here.

Now I grow up in Haifa - until I go into the IDF i see no fighting, no war, no terror in my personal life.
All you see is on the tv - this is the areas where many of us dont live. I see all this in my time in the army.

Now what of my views?
I support peace. I support reconciliation. I support giving some land in exchange for peace.

But i believe in retribution, i believe in avenging death, i believe in taking eye for a eye and never take a step back.

All of these things in its correct place.

I am the young generation of Israelis. We are prepared for peace but we are ready for war.
It is the arabs choice which they get.

Now return to the death penalty discussion please.

you are not prepared for peace at all. Your attitudes absolutely preclued any possibility of any kind of peace. Peace requires give and take and you will no budge one inch... ever.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #544 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Sure Dubai is the flavour of the month ATM but that's only because we as a society worship wealth.

Can't say Dubai impressed me much.

I'll be in Qatar shortly: we'll see how that stacks up.

We are going to Saudi Arabia this year (I hope). Not exactly a tourist destination!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104693 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #546 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm Longy has an altered personality on this topic: He cares about murderers, rapists, thieves, & pedophiles & the justice they receive.
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Reply #547 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:49pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:22pm:

You're liar, nothing more and probably considerably less.

Run out of puff, and now it's just insults.

Am I surprised? Of course not. Bye bye.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m55qpoqgfG1rxevt4o1_400.gif

Running out of puff, you haven't presented anything to argue against. Just misrepresenting the arguments of others, and speding time tracking down gifs.

This facile attempt at school yard humour, merely proves that you're pretty hollow little man. But we know that from previous encounters don't we; little man.

But if gifs and lies are all you have, then so be it.

Still just insults.

Tsk Tsk.

You were caught out. Be a man and move on. Each new post just makes you look a little sillier (as hard as that is to imagine).

Maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you (let's all hope so).

Bye bye my little friend.

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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #548 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:49pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

You cannot be so negative about it.

The problem stems from the fact we never hear or see any good come out of any country in that region.
Sure Dubai is the flavour of the month ATM but that's only because we as a society worship wealth.
The rest of the middle East is just murder & death.
I myself hve posted many times we should just pull the camera's out & let you kill each other off.
It does not help that interests of both sides manipulate our media & politicians either for gain, whether monetary or sympathy.

It may not be true but in regards to Israel & the Palestinians you look like the Ghetto guards of the Nazi's.
The persecuted have become the persecutors.

As an unqualified comment, as a personal point of view, I find those remarks both offensive and insensitive. It's quite obvious that none of your family had any experience in the death camps - can you say the same for Avram's family?

In the 58 years since its establishment, the state of Israel has proven that there is life and hope in the sands of the Middle East without the benefit of the oil deposits exploited by other countries in the region. They've achieved their statehood by sheer hard work and a refusal to be bullied by enemies on every side.

From where do you draw your comparisons?

At this very moment we have 'Australian' citizens flying overseas to fight with Al Qaeda sympathisers in Syria! Won't they be an asset to Australia when they get back home.

Look at the crime stats in this country over the last fifteen years and then tell me, "It's the Joooooooooos!"

Shame on you! You stand at odds with the very thing that makes this country worth living in - the concept of the 'fair go'. Angry

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Reply #549 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:52pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 5:48pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:51pm:

It might be offensive, the truth often is to those that don't wish to hear it.

Nup, it's just offensive and that is all it was meant to be; so well done

Your entitled to your opinion, they're like assholes, everyone has one.

As does every thread.

(how's it going '64? Wink

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Reply #551 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:00pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

You cannot be so negative about it.

The problem stems from the fact we never hear or see any good come out of any country in that region.
Sure Dubai is the flavour of the month ATM but that's only because we as a society worship wealth.
The rest of the middle East is just murder & death.
I myself hve posted many times we should just pull the camera's out & let you kill each other off.
It does not help that interests of both sides manipulate our media & politicians either for gain, whether monetary or sympathy.

It may not be true but in regards to Israel & the Palestinians you look like the Ghetto guards of the Nazi's.
The persecuted have become the persecutors.

As an unqualified comment, as a personal point of view, I find those remarks both offensive and insensitive. It's quite obvious that none of your family had any experience in the death camps - can you say the same for Avram's family?

In the 58 years since its establishment, the state of Israel has proven that there is life and hope in the sands of the Middle East without the benefit of the oil deposits exploited by other countries in the region. They've achieved their statehood by sheer hard work and a refusal to be bullied by enemies on every side.

From where do you draw your comparisons?

At this very moment we have 'Australian' citizens flying overseas to fight with Al Qaeda sympathisers in Syria! Won't they be an asset to Australia when they get back home.

Look at the crime stats in this country over the last fifteen years and then tell me, "It's the Joooooooooos!"

Shame on you! You stand at odds with the very thing that makes this country worth living in - the concept of the 'fair go'. Angry

Yeas, but I will never fathom why in 1948 they bunged a Jewish State right in the middle of 'Arabia.'

I have offered Tasmania as an alternative many times, but those stubborn two headed selfish bastards will not let go!

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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #552 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:53pm:

This thread is off topic.

Well, let's get it back on topic and up to date.

"Capital punishment is no easy answer. It is a barbaric, horrific and out-dated relic, tainted by the nightmare grisly ceremony of the whole process, something incongruous to a modern society and rightly consigned to the dustbin of history. It must never return."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rob-atkinson/capital-punishment-not-the-answer_b...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137500 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #553 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:14pm Aussie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:00pm: I have offered Tasmania as an alternative many times, but those stubborn two headed selfish bastards will not let go! Hey! That's my second home. Hands off. Offer South Australia, or the NT.
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Reply #554 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:53pm:

This thread is off topic.

Well, let's get it back on topic and up to date.

"Capital punishment is no easy answer. It is a barbaric, horrific and out-dated relic, tainted by the nightmare grisly ceremony of the whole process, something incongruous to a modern society and rightly consigned to the dustbin of history. It must never return."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rob-atkinson/capital-punishment-not-the-answer_b...

I don't agree - hang em high.

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