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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #555 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:19pm Just started a new poll. Do you support the death penalty?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #556 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:20pm bump
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #557 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:20pm bump again - didn't flip the page.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #558 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:21pm bump for the 3rd time - still didn't flip.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #559 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:22pm still won't flip - what's wrong?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104688 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #560 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:24pm 5th time? The page finally flipped. What the hell is wrong with the software?
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Reply #561 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:30pm

We seem to have moved far from the original topic, but that's not unusual.

As a man of Jewish heritage I take great pride in much of what my people have done. The transformation of barren country into a green, productive land and a thriving democracy, is a marvellous achievement.

But I am ashamed of the Israeli attitude to Palestine. And I am disgusted by the cries for vengeance typified by Avram Horowitz.

Both sides desperately need leaders of Gandhi-like qualities, men who see beyond the insane cries for revenge and find a way for both peoples to live beside each other in peace and brotherhood.

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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd... Reply #562 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:30pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:24pm: 5th time? The page finally flipped. What the hell is wrong with the software? That's easy! Doesn't want to accept the inevitable! All you young'uns want to dig out the old Soylent Green movie. That's your future - unless you're a pork eater.
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Reply #563 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:30pm:

We seem to have moved far from the original topic, but that's not unusual.

As a man of Jewish heritage I take great pride in much of what my people have done. The transformation of barren country into a green, productive land and a thriving democracy, is a marvellous achievement.

But I am ashamed of the Israeli attitude to Palestine. And I am disgusted by the cries for vengeance typified by Avram Horowitz.

Both sides desperately need leaders of Gandhi-like qualities, men who see beyond the insane cries for revenge and find a way for both peoples to live beside each other in peace and brotherhood.

Thanks Peter, for putting my clumsy thoughts into a easily understood post.
Agree on all points

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Reply #564 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:49pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

You cannot be so negative about it.

The problem stems from the fact we never hear or see any good come out of any country in that region.
Sure Dubai is the flavour of the month ATM but that's only because we as a society worship wealth.
The rest of the middle East is just murder & death.
I myself hve posted many times we should just pull the camera's out & let you kill each other off.
It does not help that interests of both sides manipulate our media & politicians either for gain, whether monetary or sympathy.

It may not be true but in regards to Israel & the Palestinians you look like the Ghetto guards of the Nazi's.
The persecuted have become the persecutors.

As an unqualified comment, as a personal point of view, I find those remarks both offensive and insensitive. It's quite obvious that none of your family had any experience in the death camps - can you say the same for Avram's family?

In the 58 years since its establishment, the state of Israel has proven that there is life and hope in the sands of the Middle East without the benefit of the oil deposits exploited by other countries in the region. They've achieved their statehood by sheer hard work and a refusal to be bullied by enemies on every side.

From where do you draw your comparisons?

At this very moment we have 'Australian' citizens flying overseas to fight with Al Qaeda sympathisers in Syria! Won't they be an asset to Australia when they get back home.

Look at the crime stats in this country over the last fifteen years and then tell me, "It's the Joooooooooos!"

Shame on you! You stand at odds with the very thing that makes this country worth living in - the concept of the 'fair go'. Angry

dont be such a wanker. Im a supporter of Israel, but that does not mean everything they do is righteous. thge inability to accept criticism or suggestion of any kind is not a great characteristic of Israelis. Avram's attitude towards justice is appalling and the very reason why the violence continues. The camps the Israelis run may not be anything like the nazi Death Camps but they still do not win praise.

You do not have to be a Hamas supporter to criticise Israel. You only have to ahve the ability to think outside your prejudices.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #565 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:50pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 6:53pm:

This thread is off topic.

Well, let's get it back on topic and up to date.

"Capital punishment is no easy answer. It is a barbaric, horrific and out-dated relic, tainted by the nightmare grisly ceremony of the whole process, something incongruous to a modern society and rightly consigned to the dustbin of history. It must never return."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rob-atkinson/capital-punishment-not-the-answer_b...

I don't agree - hang em high.

but you are an idiot and you cant even define 'em' at any point with any precision or confidence.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #566 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:53pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:30pm:

We seem to have moved far from the original topic, but that's not unusual.

As a man of Jewish heritage I take great pride in much of what my people have done. The transformation of barren country into a green, productive land and a thriving democracy, is a marvellous achievement.

But I am ashamed of the Israeli attitude to Palestine. And I am disgusted by the cries for vengeance typified by Avram Horowitz.

Both sides desperately need leaders of Gandhi-like qualities, men who see beyond the insane cries for revenge and find a way for both peoples to live beside each other in peace and brotherhood.

Thanks Peter, for putting my clumsy thoughts into a easily understood post.
Agree on all points

ditto. the trouble is while there is little chance of a peace-seeking Israeli, there is ZERO chance of a pan-arabic statesman genuinely wanting peace. it is not the formula for peace.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #568 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 9:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

"The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd..."

Yep, they're are some very strange folk in society: people who seem to think that state-sanctioned killing is acceptable.

Takes all kinds I suppose.

One supposes then, that you have no objection to the religious-sanctioned killing that is spreading across the globe like algae on a pond? After all, there is not a 'state' behind such actions, is there?

No, indeed! Just a socio-religious entity that denies any such actions by blaming atrocity on other 'factions' of their belief system whilst decrying 'misinterpretation' of the 'universal' religion of peace.

Right. That's OK, then. Grin

Instead of putting people like Dahmer and Milat out of their misery, we'll just go ahead and assassinate young girls dancing in the rain - while wearing their mandatory religious coverings.

Takes all kinds, I s'pose. Huh

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Reply #569 - Jul 1^st, 2013 at 9:08pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jul 1^st, 2013 at 9:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2013 at 3:13pm:

"The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd..."

Yep, they're are some very strange folk in society: people who seem to think that state-sanctioned killing is acceptable.

Takes all kinds I suppose.

One supposes then, that you have no objection to the religious-sanctioned killing that is spreading across the globe like algae on a pond? After all, there is not a 'state' behind such actions, is there?

No, indeed! Just a socio-religious entity that denies any such actions by blaming atrocity on other 'factions' of their belief system whilst decrying 'misinterpretation' of the 'universal' religion of peace.

Right. That's OK, then. Grin

Instead of putting people like Dahmer and Milat out of their misery, we'll just go ahead and assassinate young girls dancing in the rain - while wearing their mandatory religious coverings.

Takes all kinds, I s'pose. Huh

Mr Peccary's comment accords with your view, Mr Endriess.

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Question: Do you support the death penalty?
yes 7 (50.0%) no 6 (42.9%) not sure 1 (7.1%) Total votes: 14 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jul 1^st, 2013 at 7:19pm »