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Question: Do you support the death penalty?

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Reply #660 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:28pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:26am:
Anyone who thinks pedophilia is just an "attraction" is either attempting to normalise this type of behaviour for thier own vested interests or severely uneducated on the matter.


'severely uneducated' is your area of expertise, not ours. just  as you are attracted to (presumably) girls, so paedos are attracted to children.  None of this means that there is any sexual interaction just like how you are yet to have a sexual interaction with another person.

wrong, here you go trying to normalise these deviants. Physical sexual interaction is not the only way these people offend or harm children, simply viewing child pornography is not only an offense but harmful to children. Or are you going to argue that viewing child pron is harmless? we can go down that road if you want.
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Reply #661 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:41am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:09am:
  And pedophilis is a STATE, not an action. 



Another argument 'won' using semantics

How about child rape, actiony enough for ya?

How about we execute them instead of our current action of ensuring they do as little time as possible before setting them free to carry on with their lives.



Yes, because pedophiles can never be cured as anyone with any experience with these people knows and the problem with giving them definable prison sentences is they inevitably get out to reoffend again.


NO paraphilia can be 'cured', dimwit. and this IS my area of expertise being a recognised expert on a particular paraphilia. It is always about developing better thinking patterns, recognising unacceptable thinking and actions and building up strong, secure personal boundaries to prevent unacceptable or illegal behaviours.  And of course, attempting to redirecet at least part of the sexual desire to safer outlets.

that is how REAL people in the REAL word work with REAL subjects for REAL outcomes.  You just want to kill anyone not to your liking.  And it isnt just pedos is it?  I bet not long ago you would be calling for the execution of gays and lesbians.
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #662 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am:
If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?

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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #663 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am:
If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?
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Reply #664 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:34pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:41am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:09am:
  And pedophilis is a STATE, not an action. 



Another argument 'won' using semantics

How about child rape, actiony enough for ya?

How about we execute them instead of our current action of ensuring they do as little time as possible before setting them free to carry on with their lives.



Yes, because pedophiles can never be cured as anyone with any experience with these people knows and the problem with giving them definable prison sentences is they inevitably get out to reoffend again.


NO paraphilia can be 'cured', dimwit. and this IS my area of expertise being a recognised expert on a particular paraphilia. It is always about developing better thinking patterns, recognising unacceptable thinking and actions and building up strong, secure personal boundaries to prevent unacceptable or illegal behaviours.  And of course, attempting to redirecet at least part of the sexual desire to safer outlets.

that is how REAL people in the REAL word work with REAL subjects for REAL outcomes.  You just want to kill anyone not to your liking.  And it isnt just pedos is it?  I bet not long ago you would be calling for the execution of gays and lesbians.

Doesnt work, dimwit, not one success without castration. And even then thats not for sure. You sound like one of those social workers these people are always manipulating. recognised expert, pigs arse.
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #665 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:35pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:26am:
Anyone who thinks pedophilia is just an "attraction" is either attempting to normalise this type of behaviour for thier own vested interests or severely uneducated on the matter.


'severely uneducated' is your area of expertise, not ours. just  as you are attracted to (presumably) girls, so paedos are attracted to children.  None of this means that there is any sexual interaction just like how you are yet to have a sexual interaction with another person.

wrong, here you go trying to normalise these deviants. Physical sexual interaction is not the only way these people offend or harm children, simply viewing child pornography is not only an offense but harmful to children. Or are you going to argue that viewing child pron is harmless? we can go down that road if you want.


some 50 years ago child porn was legal in parts of europe and this magazines and photos still circulate the internet.  If you want to make the proposition that viewing these images harm current children then go ahead an make a fool of yourself. Im not defending CP or its downloading but the 1:1 relationship between a photo and child harm is rather ludicrous. it appeals to politicians pandering to stupid people like yourself but psychologists actually working in the field say the very opposite.  They aer the people on the frontier of this problem and know what is the ACTUAL problem and not some made-up simplistic excuse such as you come up with.

There was a study that concluded that nearly 10% of the canadian population had viewed some form of child porn. do you want to now maintain that 10%+ are paedophiles?

I realise all the above vastly exceeds your ability to understand and was written for the benefit of your betters which amazingly enough even includes booby.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #666 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am:
If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #667 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am:
If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?
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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd...
Reply #668 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:34pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:41am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:09am:
  And pedophilis is a STATE, not an action. 



Another argument 'won' using semantics

How about child rape, actiony enough for ya?

How about we execute them instead of our current action of ensuring they do as little time as possible before setting them free to carry on with their lives.



Yes, because pedophiles can never be cured as anyone with any experience with these people knows and the problem with giving them definable prison sentences is they inevitably get out to reoffend again.


NO paraphilia can be 'cured', dimwit. and this IS my area of expertise being a recognised expert on a particular paraphilia. It is always about developing better thinking patterns, recognising unacceptable thinking and actions and building up strong, secure personal boundaries to prevent unacceptable or illegal behaviours.  And of course, attempting to redirecet at least part of the sexual desire to safer outlets.

that is how REAL people in the REAL word work with REAL subjects for REAL outcomes.  You just want to kill anyone not to your liking.  And it isnt just pedos is it?  I bet not long ago you would be calling for the execution of gays and lesbians.

Doesnt work, dimwit, not one success without castration. And even then thats not for sure. You sound like one of those social workers these people are always manipulating. recognised expert, pigs arse.


prove that it doesnt work.  Do you have any idea how many sex offenders are actual paedos?  real answer is very few. The majority of paedos or those close to the definition DONT OFFEND.

you have an awfully simplistic view of the world and justice. you also have next to no real life experience in any field.
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Reply #669 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am:
If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?


it is almost as if u cannot read. You certainly cannot understand what has been written.  You live in abject FEAR of anything you cannot control or understand which is apparently, quite a lot. Explaining these things to you is a waste of time because you are too stupid to understand or at the very least, unwilling.
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Reply #670 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:45pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1372309675/635#635 date=1372897468]

If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?[/
quote]

it is almost as if u cannot read. You certainly cannot understand what has been written.  You live in abject FEAR of anything you cannot control or understand which is apparently, quite a lot. Explaining these things to you is a waste of time because you are too stupid to understand or at the very least, unwilling.



Longy,
Just answer the simple questions above.
Instead you resort to abuse.
You're worse than a politician.
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Reply #671 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:48pm
 
Longweekend, The existence of child porn harms children, by its existence it reinforces to whoever views it that this is normal behaviour and also perpetuates this  behaviour.Just like you are doing now. Sounds like you have a vested interest in attemting to argue that this behaviour is normal. I can see that you have a lot of "pro pedophile" arguments. you have obviously researched these arguments very well. I often hear them from offenders myself. They think they can manipulate, many times they fool the psyches, and nearly always the social workers. But almost never the people who work with these people on a daily basis, we know what they are, another form of predator. They are sociopaths and they are chameleons.   This is how they go about their filthy business sometimes for decades without any long term incarceration. They fool the psyches into thinking behaviour modification and groupo therapy and ever other bit of nonsense invented by these "professionals" is working. Becasue these professionals want to pat themselves on the back, they dont want to admit that their treatments dont work, because they cant work. And then, inevitably the predators reoffend. In every case. Anyone lacking the normal form of empathy towards children definitely is a sociopath. And to even think about being involved in a sexual act with a child means they lack this essential bit of empathy which makes us human. these people are not human.
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Reply #672 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1372309675/635#635 date=1372897468]

If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?[/
quote]

it is almost as if u cannot read. You certainly cannot understand what has been written.  You live in abject FEAR of anything you cannot control or understand which is apparently, quite a lot. Explaining these things to you is a waste of time because you are too stupid to understand or at the very least, unwilling.



Longy,
Just answer the simple questions above.
Instead you resort to abuse.
You're worse than a politician.


you personalise EVERYTHING because you lack the capacity to reason by principle. Im not going to enable your intellectual deficiencies further by pandering to your never-ending sideshow of deflections.  You do so because you simply dont understand the question being discussed here.There have been societies in the past that have executed the stupid.  would you want that situatiuon?
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Reply #673 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:51pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

There was a study that concluded that nearly 10% of the canadian population had viewed some form of child porn. do you want to now maintain that 10%+ are paedophiles?

I realise all the above vastly exceeds your ability to understand and was written for the benefit of your betters which amazingly enough even includes booby.

Show me the study, you keep claiming but offer no evidence. Most of what you claim I have proved is nonsense.
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Reply #674 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:52pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
.There have been societies in the past that have executed the stupid.  would you want that situatiuon?

Id go for the perpetuators first. you would get a double whammy.
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