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Reply #675 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:54pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Longweekend, The existence of child porn harms children, by its existence it reinforces to whoever views it that this is normal behaviour and also perpetuates this  behaviour.Just like you are doing now. Sounds like you have a vested interest in attemting to argue that this behaviour is normal. I can see that you have a lot of "pro pedophile" arguments. you have obviously researched these arguments very well. I often hear them from offenders myself. They think they can manipulate, many times they fool the psyches, and nearly always the social workers. But almost never the people who work with these people on a daily basis, we know what they are, another form of predator. They are sociopaths and they are chameleons.   This is how they go about their filthy business sometimes for decades without any long term incarceration. They fool the psyches into thinking behaviour modification and groupo therapy and ever other bit of nonsense invented by these "professionals" is working. Becasue these professionals want to pat themselves on the back, they dont want to admit that their treatments dont work, because they cant work. And then, inevitably the predators reoffend. In every case. Anyone lacking the normal form of empathy towards children definitely is a sociopath. And to even think about being involved in a sexual act with a child means they lack this essential bit of empathy which makes us human. these people are not human.



I agree,
hang em high with a sign around their neck saying pedophile.
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Reply #676 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:54pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Longweekend, The existence of child porn harms children, by its existence it reinforces to whoever views it that this is normal behaviour and also perpetuates this  behaviour.Just like you are doing now. Sounds like you have a vested interest in attemting to argue that this behaviour is normal. I can see that you have a lot of "pro pedophile" arguments. you have obviously researched these arguments very well. I often hear them from offenders myself. They think they can manipulate, many times they fool the psyches, and nearly always the social workers. But almost never the people who work with these people on a daily basis, we know what they are, another form of predator. They are sociopaths and they are chameleons.   This is how they go about their filthy business sometimes for decades without any long term incarceration. They fool the psyches into thinking behaviour modification and groupo therapy and ever other bit of nonsense invented by these "professionals" is working. Becasue these professionals want to pat themselves on the back, they dont want to admit that their treatments dont work, because they cant work. And then, inevitably the predators reoffend. In every case. Anyone lacking the normal form of empathy towards children definitely is a sociopath. And to even think about being involved in a sexual act with a child means they lack this essential bit of empathy which makes us human. these people are not human.


everytime you post you demonstrate how little you really know.  You live in fear of something that is not true.  The world is not fully of sociopathic super-intelligent pedophiles.  I doubt very much that you've spoken to a single offender ever.  Because what you are saying flies in the face of the evidence.

All you have done in this thread is demand that someone dies.  it is all about killing to you and if you were interviewed by me for my research Id be giving you a few questionnaires to elict the basis of your sublimated violence and hatred. and I will bet my bottom dollar you wet your bed into your teens.  It is a common trait in those like you.
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Reply #677 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:55pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1372309675/635#635 date=1372897468]

If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?[/
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it is almost as if u cannot read. You certainly cannot understand what has been written.  You live in abject FEAR of anything you cannot control or understand which is apparently, quite a lot. Explaining these things to you is a waste of time because you are too stupid to understand or at the very least, unwilling.



Longy,
Just answer the simple questions above.
Instead you resort to abuse.
You're worse than a politician.


you personalise EVERYTHING because you lack the capacity to reason by principle. Im not going to enable your intellectual deficiencies further by pandering to your never-ending sideshow of deflections.  You do so because you simply dont understand the question being discussed here.There have been societies in the past that have executed the stupid.  would you want that situatiuon?



What deflection?

( By the way - you can't spell. )
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There have been societies in the past that have executed the stupid.  would you want that situatiuon?


Absolutely, particularly as all Laborites are stupid.... Grin Grin Cheesy
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Reply #681 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:54pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Longweekend, The existence of child porn harms children, by its existence it reinforces to whoever views it that this is normal behaviour and also perpetuates this  behaviour.Just like you are doing now. Sounds like you have a vested interest in attemting to argue that this behaviour is normal. I can see that you have a lot of "pro pedophile" arguments. you have obviously researched these arguments very well. I often hear them from offenders myself. They think they can manipulate, many times they fool the psyches, and nearly always the social workers. But almost never the people who work with these people on a daily basis, we know what they are, another form of predator. They are sociopaths and they are chameleons.   This is how they go about their filthy business sometimes for decades without any long term incarceration. They fool the psyches into thinking behaviour modification and groupo therapy and ever other bit of nonsense invented by these "professionals" is working. Becasue these professionals want to pat themselves on the back, they dont want to admit that their treatments dont work, because they cant work. And then, inevitably the predators reoffend. In every case. Anyone lacking the normal form of empathy towards children definitely is a sociopath. And to even think about being involved in a sexual act with a child means they lack this essential bit of empathy which makes us human. these people are not human.


everytime you post you demonstrate how little you really know.  You live in fear of something that is not true.  The world is not fully of sociopathic super-intelligent pedophiles.  I doubt very much that you've spoken to a single offender ever.  Because what you are saying flies in the face of the evidence.

All you have done in this thread is demand that someone dies.  it is all about killing to you and if you were interviewed by me for my research Id be giving you a few questionnaires to elict the basis of your sublimated violence and hatred. and I will bet my bottom dollar you wet your bed into your teens.  It is a common trait in those like you.




Attacking those you want to educate; but then who really wants to be educated to be pro-paedophile.

Look no harm can come form double tapping child rapists; get in, get it done, every one's happy.

And I say that without any hate, in fact the killing of child rapists fills me with indifference for their plight. Well maybe a little bit of happiness, but mostly indifference. Grin

I'm impressed you still have your pro-peado / child rapist argument so refined since the last time you trotted out this drivel.

Still don't believe it and still anti-peado, better luck next time hey.  Smiley


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Reply #682 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:48pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

everytime you post you demonstrate how little you really know.  You live in fear of something that is not true.  The world is not fully of sociopathic super-intelligent pedophiles.  I doubt very much that you've spoken to a single offender ever.  Because what you are saying flies in the face of the evidence.

All you have done in this thread is demand that someone dies.  it is all about killing to you and if you were interviewed by me for my research Id be giving you a few questionnaires to elict the basis of your sublimated violence and hatred. and I will bet my bottom dollar you wet your bed into your teens.  It is a common trait in those like you.

Nobody called these people super intelligent and no one said the world is full of them, those are your words.You are trying to divert. I also dont have any "sublimated "violent tendencies. you have no idea what my personality profile is, unlike yourself I dont give that away on internet forums.
Where are the stats on your claim that 10 percent of Canadians view child porn. Still waiting.
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Reply #683 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:50pm
 
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Attacking those you want to educate; but then who really wants to be educated to be pro-pedophile.

Look no harm can come form double tapping child rapists; get in, get it done, every one's happy.

And I say that without any hate, in fact the killing of child rapists fills me with indifference for their plight. Well maybe a little bit of happiness, but mostly indifference. Grin

I'm impressed you still have your pro-pedo / child rapist argument so refined since the last time you trotted out this drivel.

Still don't believe it and still anti-pedo, better luck next time hey. 



I agree BigOl,
hang all convicted pedophiles.
Get rid of this filth.
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Reply #684 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 2:55pm
 
Longtalltales, you have  made a number of claims in this thread and are yet to supply any substance for any of them. 2 in particular I would wish to have stats for. The first is your claim that most pedophiles are diagnosed without actioning their desires. The 2nd is that 10 percent of Canadians view child porn.I find both of these claims extraordinary and serving only to try and attempt to normalise these pedophiles within mainstream society. However, I am prepared to look at any evidence that can be supplied. I alos find it quite extraordinary that you claim to be an expert in this field of research but cannot supply the evidence for your claims, surely an expert would have links or sources of some sort.
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Reply #685 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 3:12pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 27th, 2013 at 3:07pm:
A new thread because the Search facility on this board is crap.

The Death Penalty.

Texas despatched 500 since 1976.

I'm all for the death penalty, but only in certain cases.

It's utterly ridiculous that this woman had to sit on Death Row for 14 years before they applied the original sentence.

She was an addict at the time she committed the murder.

She's been clean for 14 years. She's definitely not the person she was.



The problem is that penalties are handed out by the judiciary. They are legal decisions, when they shouldn't be. It should be ethicists and psychiatrists that decide the penalty, including whether justice is being done by executing murderers. Another example of unnecessary injustice would be in the sentencing to death of Leslie Van Houten for her part in the murders carried out by the Manson family. She narrowly escaped the death sentence, but is still rotting away in jail for a crime that she was as much as a victim of, herself.

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Reply #686 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 3:49pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:15am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:09am:
so.. stealing a loaf of bread gets the death penatly?  And since terrorism has ben expanded to include such acts as burning down an empty building perhap you might want to redefine that as well.  And pedophilia is a STATE, not an action. 



Somehow, I don't think that fact would change bobby's mind.

He seems to be pretty loose with the noose.


and loose with the facts.



That's the standard MO for the DP mob.


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Reply #687 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:39am:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1372309675/635#635 date=1372897468]

If a pedophile sodomized your child you'd want to kill them.

Just admit it.



Absolutely.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that.

However, it doesn't give me the right to do it.



But if we all get together & agree on the DP then
maybe we can have a referendum to get the justice BLOODLUST we all crave for?




Longweekend,
what should be the correct punishment for pedophiles?


I am a believer in the correct use of words and terminology and will continue to do so even in the face of illerates and bogans.

there should be NO PENALTY for paedophilia. However there should be a range of penalties for actual sex offenders against children. Strangely enough, that is exactly how the law operates at present.



Ok Longy,
so you're happy that pedophiles are let back out on the street to re-offend? ( after a bit of jail time)

I bet you wouldn't say that if one of them sodomized your child?[/
quote]

it is almost as if u cannot read. You certainly cannot understand what has been written.  You live in abject FEAR of anything you cannot control or understand which is apparently, quite a lot. Explaining these things to you is a waste of time because you are too stupid to understand or at the very least, unwilling.



Longy,
Just answer the simple questions above.
Instead you resort to abuse.
You're worse than a politician.


nope, I am sticking to the topic which is something you cannot do.  Because your mind is so small you cannot formulate an opinion or policy based on principle - just actions you see or think about.  IN complex issues like this your opinion is worthless because you lack the capacity to extrapolate from one criminal activity to the entire subject of justice.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #688 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:11pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:54pm:
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Longweekend, The existence of child porn harms children, by its existence it reinforces to whoever views it that this is normal behaviour and also perpetuates this  behaviour.Just like you are doing now. Sounds like you have a vested interest in attemting to argue that this behaviour is normal. I can see that you have a lot of "pro pedophile" arguments. you have obviously researched these arguments very well. I often hear them from offenders myself. They think they can manipulate, many times they fool the psyches, and nearly always the social workers. But almost never the people who work with these people on a daily basis, we know what they are, another form of predator. They are sociopaths and they are chameleons.   This is how they go about their filthy business sometimes for decades without any long term incarceration. They fool the psyches into thinking behaviour modification and groupo therapy and ever other bit of nonsense invented by these "professionals" is working. Becasue these professionals want to pat themselves on the back, they dont want to admit that their treatments dont work, because they cant work. And then, inevitably the predators reoffend. In every case. Anyone lacking the normal form of empathy towards children definitely is a sociopath. And to even think about being involved in a sexual act with a child means they lack this essential bit of empathy which makes us human. these people are not human.


everytime you post you demonstrate how little you really know.  You live in fear of something that is not true.  The world is not fully of sociopathic super-intelligent pedophiles.  I doubt very much that you've spoken to a single offender ever.  Because what you are saying flies in the face of the evidence.

All you have done in this thread is demand that someone dies.  it is all about killing to you and if you were interviewed by me for my research Id be giving you a few questionnaires to elict the basis of your sublimated violence and hatred. and I will bet my bottom dollar you wet your bed into your teens.  It is a common trait in those like you.




Attacking those you want to educate; but then who really wants to be educated to be pro-paedophile.

Look no harm can come form double tapping child rapists; get in, get it done, every one's happy.

And I say that without any hate, in fact the killing of child rapists fills me with indifference for their plight. Well maybe a little bit of happiness, but mostly indifference. Grin

I'm impressed you still have your pro-peado / child rapist argument so refined since the last time you trotted out this drivel.

Still don't believe it and still anti-peado, better luck next time hey.  Smiley




unfortunately, you also possess an exceptional indifference to innocence vs guilt. There have been plenty of examples of convicted child abusers who were later found to have been convicted without any evidence and proof of their innocence hidden from the defence and jury.  IN your world of hate and killing they would be dead and what is worse, you wouldnt even care.  AS long as people die you are happy. Their guilt is just an added but optional bonus.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #689 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:13pm
 
ian wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
Longtalltales, you have  made a number of claims in this thread and are yet to supply any substance for any of them. 2 in particular I would wish to have stats for. The first is your claim that most pedophiles are diagnosed without actioning their desires. The 2nd is that 10 percent of Canadians view child porn.I find both of these claims extraordinary and serving only to try and attempt to normalise these pedophiles within mainstream society. However, I am prepared to look at any evidence that can be supplied. I alos find it quite extraordinary that you claim to be an expert in this field of research but cannot supply the evidence for your claims, surely an expert would have links or sources of some sort.


why don't you actually do your own research you pitiful wimp.  IM not going to waste my time doing it because you have already shown that you will not accept as evidence anything that contradicts your opinion. That was demonstrated when you refused to accepted the Singapore Law Society's article on Singapore law.  I could find researcher after psychiatrist after psychologist and you would simply say it isnt true.  Why would I bother with a twit like you?
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