Australian Politics Forum - Proof they are economic migrants

Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26126 Gender:	Proof they are economic migrants Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:10am http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/carr-flags-tougher-boat-policy-und...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74875 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #1 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:13am I'm not sure what Carr was on about here, but in an interview I saw later where someone else tried to explain Cars comment, they said that he was referring mainly to Iranian boat people.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #2 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:13am Well, I read the story. So, where's the "proof"? Or, are you suggesting that the news.com.au story is the "proof"?
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58894 Here Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #3 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:14am Good to see you on board with Labors view now.
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Reply #4 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am

Where's the proof? Where's the proof? The proof is staring you in the face Greggerry the same as the truth has been staring this incompetent Goverment's face at closer quarters.

It is the worst kept secret in the world. Even last Sunday 60 minutes had a great article involving Fred Ambon the King of the Pirates who told exactly how it all went down. Very happy with himself he was too.

How they came in on tourist visas, then ended up at his port, in which he controlled the local Police with handsome handouts.

Then how he commanded a fleet of leaky old tubs and sent them on their merry way, Christmas Island bound minus their huge fares.

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Indonesia is complicit in this arrangement, it beggars belief that the Indonesian Government is not complicit in what is happening.

Indonesia is a corrupt nation and approval is only a bribe away.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #5 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am: These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout. Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red. Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #6 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:26am red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am: Where's the proof? Where's the proof? The proof is staring you in the face Greggerry ... No red, it isn't. That story contains no "proof". If you have some though, I'd like to see it. So, where is the "proof" red. Provide something other than your opinion please.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #7 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:28am red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am: Indonesia is a corrupt nation and approval is only a bribe away. Yes. No argument there.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58894 Here Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #8 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:33am Carr may be correct - there has always been a small number of economic refugees try to get in and the current regulation is to deny them refugee status. If the number has increased they are menat to check and do something about it. Overall it has no impact on our required treatment of legitimate refugees.
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #9 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red.

Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.

Nor is denying their requests and sending them back from whence they came.

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #10 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:38am It's sad seeing labor backpedal. It just makes them look worse.
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greggerypeccary

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Reply #11 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red.

Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.

Nor is denying their requests and sending them back from whence they came.

Why would you deny an asylum seeker's request to have their claim for refugee status processed?

Undecided

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #12 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:40am It's economic to stay alive in the face of tyranny.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #13 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am It's true because Bob Carr said it?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138632 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #14 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:44am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am: It's true because Bob Carr said it? It seems so. Red hasn't come up with anything else yet. Red ... ?
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