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Reply #15 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

It's sad seeing labor backpedal. It just makes them look worse.

I am more worried that people are going to think Labor has an answer to this problem now. They've had years to do something and they've done nothing. Labor does not have the fortitude to deal with problems like this. They have no qualms about mocking Australians (particularly conservative leaning voters), but they do not have the courage to make these decisions because they may offend foreigners.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #16 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red.

Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.

Nor is denying their requests and sending them back from whence they came.

Why would you deny an asylum seeker's request to have their claim for refugee status processed?

Undecided

Because the farce has to stop.
Let them wait in UN camps overseas like everyone else has to do.

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #17 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am: It's true because Bob Carr said it? Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth.
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #18 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red.

Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.

Nor is denying their requests and sending them back from whence they came.

Why would you deny an asylum seeker's request to have their claim for refugee status processed?

Undecided

Because the farce has to stop.

What "farce"?

Seeking asylum, in a boat, is a perfectly legitimate way of applying for refugee status.

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #19 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am: It's true because Bob Carr said it? Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth. It's true...'everyone' knows what's going on, we don't need Bob Carr to tell us. We're all smarter than he is anyway.
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #20 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:50am

Firing that little cannon of yours Greggerry but the game was up long ago.

The whole world knows that Australia is the softest touch going. For 15K a person you can come here as an illegal then you can sit on your arse for the rest of your life with your hand out.

This is exactly what is happening.

Currently there are 45,000 with the latest figures. Now 85% of those will, in five years time be unemployed with their hands out.

Extrapolate that figure to say a million, just how many of these bludgers are the Labor Government prepared to take on.

How deep is the public purse, just how much more will China lend us on the never never plan, we are up to 350 billion dollars because with this illegal burden there just isn't enough dough ray me to go around.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #21 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:51am

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am:

It's true because Bob Carr said it?

Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth.

It's true...'everyone' knows what's going on, we don't need Bob Carr to tell us.
We're all smarter than he is anyway.

So, maybe you can provide the "proof" of what's going on then (?)

Care to give it a go? Nobody else has stepped up to the plate yet.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #22 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:52am

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

It's sad seeing labor backpedal. It just makes them look worse.

I am more worried that people are going to think Labor has an answer to this problem now. They've had years to do something and they've done nothing. Labor does not have the fortitude to deal with problems like this. They have no qualms about mocking Australians (particularly conservative leaning voters), but they do not have the courage to make these decisions because they may offend foreigners.

No, people have had enough of Labor . They're gone. That's what you get when you do things your own way and stick your middle finger up to people you feel you are smarter than. They weren't either.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26143 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #23 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:54am Dnarever wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:14am: Good to see you on board with Labors view now. Yes, it's good to see Labor has finally realised what we all knew years ago - they're country shoppers, not asylum seekers.
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #24 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

These people are illegals, fare paying passengers bound for the land of the handout.

Paying for a boat ride isn't illegal red.

Being a rich asylum seeker isn't illegal red.

Nor is denying their requests and sending them back from whence they came.

Why would you deny an asylum seeker's request to have their claim for refugee status processed?

Undecided

Because the farce has to stop.

What "farce"?

Seeking asylum, in a boat, is a perfectly legitimate way of applying for refugee status.

It should no longer be.
The boats are coming from Indonesia or Sri Lanka...where the so called 'refugees' have safe haven.
Indonesia let them in, so Indonesia should process them, and let them stay there or send them back.

Sri Lanka let them leave, so Srin Lanka can have them back.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #25 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:55am

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

The whole world knows that Australia is the softest touch going. For 15K a person you can come here as an illegal then you can sit on your arse for the rest of your life with your hand out.

Paying to get on a boat and then claiming asylum isn't illegal red.

Any "proof" of the "economic migrants" claim yet, or is it just your opinion.

Can we expect to see some sort of "proof" in your next post, or will it just be more of the same: opinion and misinformation?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138740 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #26 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:58am bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:54am: Indonesia let them in, so Indonesia should process them, and let them stay there ... Are you familiar with the 1951 UN Convention? http://www.unhcr.org/protect/PROTECTION/3b73b0d63.pdf
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #27 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:01am

Greggerry...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS.

Bludging on the goodwill of the Australian Taxpayer who has already done their job with an orderly program of immigration.

But then word got out we were a soft touch...and they were right ...we are!

And then they started to come and come and come and come...All the bludgers of the world unite; because we know they will not fight.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #28 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:02am

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:52am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:46am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:38am:

It's sad seeing labor backpedal. It just makes them look worse.

I am more worried that people are going to think Labor has an answer to this problem now. They've had years to do something and they've done nothing. Labor does not have the fortitude to deal with problems like this. They have no qualms about mocking Australians (particularly conservative leaning voters), but they do not have the courage to make these decisions because they may offend foreigners.

No, people have had enough of Labor . They're gone. That's what you get when you do things your own way and stick your middle finger up to people you feel you are smarter than. They weren't either.

Let's hope that is the case.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #29 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:03am

red baron wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:01am:

Greggerry...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS...ILLEGALS.

Bludging on the goodwill of the Australian Taxpayer who has already done their job with an orderly program of immigration.

But then word got out we were a soft touch...and they were right ...we are!

And then they started to come and come and come and come...All the bludgers of the world unite; because we know they will not fight.

So, you admit you have no "proof" then?

Good.

White flag accepted.

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