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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #30 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am:

It's true because Bob Carr said it?

Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth.

It's true...'everyone' knows what's going on, we don't need Bob Carr to tell us.
We're all smarter than he is anyway.

So, maybe you can provide the "proof" of what's going on then (?)

Care to give it a go? Nobody else has stepped up to the plate yet.

Sure.

It's all been exposed and detailed on Sixty Minutes over the years.
Most recently in Sri Lanka, where it was clearly shown that the people leaving on the people-smuggling boats were coming here "for a better life" and "to make money".

The so called 'refugees' arriving here on people-smuggling boats from Indonesia were safe there and should've been made stay there...they were Indonesia's problem.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #31 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Indonesia let them in, so Indonesia should process them, and let them stay there ...

Are you familiar with the 1951 UN Convention?

http://www.unhcr.org/protect/PROTECTION/3b73b0d63.pdf

Yes.
We're being played for suckers by Indonesia, a non-signatory once again.

Indonesia must be deal with.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #32 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:07am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

I'm not sure what Carr was on about here, but in an interview I saw later where someone else tried to explain Cars comment, they said that he was referring mainly to Iranian boat people.

But you said they all got here without their papers so how do you know they are Iranians?

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #33 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:08am

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am:

It's true because Bob Carr said it?

Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth.

It's true...'everyone' knows what's going on, we don't need Bob Carr to tell us.
We're all smarter than he is anyway.

So, maybe you can provide the "proof" of what's going on then (?)

Care to give it a go? Nobody else has stepped up to the plate yet.

Sure.

It's all been exposed and detailed on Sixty Minutes over the years.
Most recently in Sri Lanka, where it was clearly shown that the people leaving on the people-smuggling boats were coming here "for a better life" and "to make money".

The so called 'refugees' arriving here on people-smuggling boats from Indonesia were safe there and should've been made stay there...they were Indonesia's problem.

LOL "Sixty Minutes"?

Are you serious?

What about A Current Affair? Wink

"It must be true, because it was on Sixty Minutes" You're just as funny as red baron.

Come on, surely you can do better than "it was on Sixty Minutes".

Where is the "proof"?

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Maqqa

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #34 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:12am

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Indonesia let them in, so Indonesia should process them, and let them stay there ...

Are you familiar with the 1951 UN Convention?

http://www.unhcr.org/protect/PROTECTION/3b73b0d63.pdf

Don't worry bambu - pecker thinks he understands the UN Convention but he doesn't

Facts are the Convention provides for those who are pursued and crosses over the border of another country to claim asylum

But the fact that these people are country shopping ie they've crossed many many borders half way round the world thinking they can jump the processing queue

So the UN Convention is not relevant. If it was relevant then they could not be returned

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138739 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #35 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:15am Maqqa wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:12am: But the fact that these people are country shopping ie they've crossed many many borders half way round the world thinking they can jump the processing queue One doesn't join a queue to become an asylum seeker Maqqa. You might get it right one day.
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #36 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:08am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

bambu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 9:42am:

It's true because Bob Carr said it?

Really? He's just trying to save Labors ass. That's the truth.

It's true...'everyone' knows what's going on, we don't need Bob Carr to tell us.
We're all smarter than he is anyway.

So, maybe you can provide the "proof" of what's going on then (?)

Care to give it a go? Nobody else has stepped up to the plate yet.

Sure.

It's all been exposed and detailed on Sixty Minutes over the years.
Most recently in Sri Lanka, where it was clearly shown that the people leaving on the people-smuggling boats were coming here "for a better life" and "to make money".

The so called 'refugees' arriving here on people-smuggling boats from Indonesia were safe there and should've been made stay there...they were Indonesia's problem.

LOL "Sixty Minutes"?

Are you serious?

What about A Current Affair? Wink

"It must be true, because it was on Sixty Minutes" You're just as funny as red baron.

Come on, surely you can do better than "it was on Sixty Minutes".

Where is the "proof"?

The passengers on the people-smugglings boats said it.

Refugees my ass.

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #37 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:18am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:15am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:12am:

But the fact that these people are country shopping ie they've crossed many many borders half way round the world thinking they can jump the processing queue

One doesn't join a queue to become an asylum seeker Maqqa.

Roll Eyes

You might get it right one day.

You might learn to read one day pecker

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #38 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:23am Economic migrants get sent back - hence not illegal. Legitimate refugees are accepted - hence not illegal. SOB
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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #39 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:27am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Economic migrants get sent back - hence not illegal. Legitimate refugees are accepted - hence not illegal.

SOB

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No, hardly anybody got sent back. Some got sent back because they were wanted for murder or were terror suspects. The Australian government payed thousands to get some to go home because they were for Tammils and of questionable charactor. Basically there isn't a policy of sending back. You make it , you stay!!!

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #40 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:36am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Economic migrants get sent back - hence not illegal. Legitimate refugees are accepted - hence not illegal.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Isn't the issue here though, that due to shortcomings in the determination process, some?/many? are accepted who are NOT legitimate refugees vide the UN Convention definition????

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #41 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 11:16am

Big Dave wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:27am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:23am:

Economic migrants get sent back - hence not illegal. Legitimate refugees are accepted - hence not illegal.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

No, hardly anybody got sent back. Some got sent back because they were wanted for murder or were terror suspects. The Australian government payed thousands to get some to go home because they were for Tammils and of questionable charactor. Basically there isn't a policy of sending back. You make it , you stay!!!

Then that just shows that they are genuine refugees.

SOB

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Re: Proof they are economic migrants
Reply #42 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 11:17am

Maqqa wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:18am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:15am:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 10:12am:

But the fact that these people are country shopping ie they've crossed many many borders half way round the world thinking they can jump the processing queue

One doesn't join a queue to become an asylum seeker Maqqa.

Roll Eyes

You might get it right one day.

You might learn to read one day pecker

Doubtful... very doubtful.

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Reply #43 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 12:16pm

Genuine refugees would stop at the first safe place they come to. These people - economic refugees - pass through more than one safe place intent on reaching Australia because this incompetent government not only lays out the welcome mat, but give them freebies to the tune of thousands of dollars. Five years after arriving, most are still on welfare.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Proof they are economic migrants Reply #44 - Jun 30^th, 2013 at 12:18pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 30^th, 2013 at 12:16pm: Genuine refugees would stop at the first safe place they come to. . Why didnt the Jews stop at England?
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