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Reply #30 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:06am
 
talk about a double standard... BigolDude... you happily abuse people for all sorts of things.  Like... you insult me when I express an opinion ,  and even when I engage you, and spell out for you ,  what I was saying,  you cannot respond, because,, jeez  you might have been wrong.!! ??

No WeeDude... you don't practice what you preach.. you might have an opinion about ME  or Pansi... that doesn't give you the justification for venting your spleen on all and sundry, who displease you.

Now.. I don't claim to be totally innocent of personal abuse... I have gotten crappy enough to have a go at some.. including you... but I generally try to address the post, rather than the poster.

If you are only able to spew abuse, you're better off SAYING nothing.

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Reply #31 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 5:39am
 
mantra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:55pm:
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How is it a "flame war" if the ppl that report you arent even participating? methinks you protest too much. Perhaps you should stop being overly abusive?


You mightn't even realise it Spot - but your troll poll is very abusive and offensive.

You've put up an open poll where even viewers and non-members can participate and click on a member's nick as many times as they please. The only justification you have for it is a vendetta against those people who have disagreed with you.

When you don't like the numbers against you - you flip it around so someone else is at the top of the list. That is serious passive aggressive abuse against selected members.



Awwwwww so off you go again trying to twist things so its about me and not the dishonest admin that altered it several times and muso who altered it once (so he says). The original poll soren was winning - i was second and then it was altered. As for your personal dislike for polls that outsiders can vote on - too bad so sad. There are lots of those polls in this forum. Its a matter for the author (or should be).

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Re: When are personal insults going to be punished?
Reply #32 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 5:42am
 
muso wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:38am:
John S wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:13am:
freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2013 at 7:14pm:
Take a look around Peter. This is not a small forum. I am not going to spend 16 hours a day trying to read every single post to save you the trouble of reporting abuse. Send me a PM with a link and a quote. Use the quote button to make it easier.


FD what is the use of reporting abuse when you do nothing about it.

I reported someone for abusing me all the time back in February and they are still a member here.

Here is the link to the PMs I send you.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imshow;caller=2;id=1361486070

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imshow;caller=2;id=1361486118

I ask you in the PM to let me know of any outcomes that you make and I am still waiting on what you done one way or the other.

What have you in mind to stop someone coming back after being barred, they can get another IP address or email account and a new ID won't stop them if they got the other 2. Would you bar them again as soon as it comes to your attention?


Very few posters are banned for good. It's usually a 24 hour or 48 hour ban. Also, you won't usually be informed of what happens.


So where are magpie and sanofi?

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Re: When are personal insults going to be punished?
Reply #33 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 7:12am
 
Emma wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:06am:
talk about a double standard... BigolDude... you happily abuse people for all sorts of things.  Like... you insult me when I express an opinion ,  and even when I engage you, and spell out for you ,  what I was saying,  you cannot respond, because,, jeez  you might have been wrong.!! ??

No WeeDude... you don't practice what you preach.. you might have an opinion about ME  or Pansi... that doesn't give you the justification for venting your spleen on all and sundry, who displease you.

Now.. I don't claim to be totally innocent of personal abuse... I have gotten crappy enough to have a go at some.. including you... but I generally try to address the post, rather than the poster.

If you are only able to spew abuse, you're better off SAYING nothing.




What ever you say.  Grin

Your replies have never been known for their rational structure or logic, so not easy to reply about the post.

BTW in your barrier reef thread I pretty much did my best to stay on track with your endless personal abuse but Im only human and eventually I will respond in kind.


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Reply #34 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 7:31am
 
i would suggest forgiveness

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Re: When are personal insults going to be punished?
Reply #35 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:21am
 
muso wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:38am:
John S wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:13am:
freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2013 at 7:14pm:
Take a look around Peter. This is not a small forum. I am not going to spend 16 hours a day trying to read every single post to save you the trouble of reporting abuse. Send me a PM with a link and a quote. Use the quote button to make it easier.


FD what is the use of reporting abuse when you do nothing about it.

I reported someone for abusing me all the time back in February and they are still a member here.

Here is the link to the PMs I send you.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imshow;caller=2;id=1361486070

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=imshow;caller=2;id=1361486118

I ask you in the PM to let me know of any outcomes that you make and I am still waiting on what you done one way or the other.

What have you in mind to stop someone coming back after being barred, they can get another IP address or email account and a new ID won't stop them if they got the other 2. Would you bar them again as soon as it comes to your attention?


Very few posters are banned for good. It's usually a 24 hour or 48 hour ban. Also, you won't usually be informed of what happens.


muso so someone abuse another member you bar him for 24 hours then they come back on and keep abusing  the member so you bar him again for 48 hours, then they come back on and carrying on abusing the member again. When do you say enough is enough?

Also it would be good to get a PM when you make a complaint to get a PM back to say that you are looking into the matter.
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Reply #36 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am
 
John S wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:21am:
muso so someone abuse another member you bar him for 24 hours then they come back on and keep abusing  the member so you bar him again for 48 hours, then they come back on and carrying on abusing the member again. When do you say enough is enough?

Also it would be good to get a PM when you make a complaint to get a PM back to say that you are looking into the matter.



Hopefully you see the irony of your abuse post considering you have a banner that refers to 'numberplate' as an idiot.


What most of the complainers complain about is not so much the abuse, which at times gets pretty full on, but the humiliation of being constantly caught out posting stupid comments. I agree we all get to do that occasionally but some people do it consistently and seek revenge on their foes by antagonising them into a flame war; which they then report or even better have someone else do it.

Pretty much the only intelligent thing they can manage; so kudos to them for their strategic planning; brickbats for their infantile behaviour.



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Re: When are personal insults going to be punished?
Reply #37 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:18am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am:
John S wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:21am:
muso so someone abuse another member you bar him for 24 hours then they come back on and keep abusing  the member so you bar him again for 48 hours, then they come back on and carrying on abusing the member again. When do you say enough is enough?

Also it would be good to get a PM when you make a complaint to get a PM back to say that you are looking into the matter.



Hopefully you see the irony of your abuse post considering you have a banner that refers to 'numberplate' as an idiot.


What most of the complainers complain about is not so must the abuse, which at times gets pretty full on, but the humiliation of being constantly caught out posting stupid comments. I agree we all get to do that occasionally but some people do it consistently and seek revenge on their foes by antagonising them into a flame war; which they then report or even better have someone else do it.

Pretty much the only intelligent thing they can manage; so kudos to them for their strategic planning; brickbats for their infantile behaviour.





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Reply #38 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:28am
 
99% of the abuse and name calling is in response to abuse and name calling.

Man-up Freedman and stop behaving like a pussy!
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Re: When are personal insults going to be punished?
Reply #39 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:58am
 
muso wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:35am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:18am:
Remember it takes two to have a flame war, only banning one, because they are winning isn't really fair.  Smiley



I agree. Where is your evidence to support the assertion that only one is banned? In an obvious flame war, we usually suspend any/all participants. 

Given that we don't publicise suspensions, do you send PMs to the others asking "hey, were you suspended too?" I seriously doubt it. 

If we publicised it, it would only add fuel to the fire.


it must be hard sometimes as a mod to believe you are actually dealing with so called ADULTS..just reading this thread is enough to realize everyone would/could  be banned at any given stage...hilarious...

come on guys whats your idea of abuse spell it out.?? at least give the mods an idea as telling someone to F off... in this day and age is hardly abuse...it getting where its almost a compliment..

has anyone really tried to ignore those that dont seem to be able to carry on a normal conversation?

.just ignore I am sure they will get the message if you insist on payback you only encourage the dimwitted.it isnt easy but it is worth it.
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Reply #40 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:59am
 
Socrates wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:28am:
99% of the abuse and name calling is in response to abuse and name calling.

Man-up Freedman and stop behaving like a pussy!



peter doesnt abuse....
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Reply #41 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:07am
 
muso wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:35am:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:18am:
Remember it takes two to have a flame war, only banning one, because they are winning isn't really fair.  Smiley



I agree. Where is your evidence to support the assertion that only one is banned? In an obvious flame war, we usually suspend any/all participants. 

Given that we don't publicise suspensions, do you send PMs to the others asking "hey, were you suspended too?" I seriously doubt it. 

If we publicised it, it would only add fuel to the fire.



You can't ask the other person if you are never told the circumstances of your suspension and have no ability to do so during your suspension. Also there is no opportunity to defend yourself against any accusations, to present mitigation or explanation. The Star Chamber decrees, end of conversation.

The best bit is watching others continue abusing people with impunity while you sit on the sidelines.


If you want you could PM me the details of my suspension and I would love to find out who and why.



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Reply #42 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:09am
 
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stop being a cry baby - what a girl.   Grin
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Reply #43 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:12am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:09am:
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stop being a cry baby - what a girl.   Grin



See this is exactly what Im talking about, starts off like you're winning, but as soon as I flog you from pillar to post you run off and cry to the mods.


Im more than happy to smack you around like a little b1tch, but Im sick of being the only one held accountable.


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Reply #44 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:19am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:12am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:09am:
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stop being a cry baby - what a girl.   Grin



See this is exactly what Im talking about, starts off like you're winning, but as soon as I flog you from pillar to post you run off and cry to the mods.


Im more than happy to smack you around like a little b1tch, but Im sick of being the only one held accountable.




Thats bs. the times i have seen you abusing pansi she hasnt said anything deserving of it to you. You just disagree with her.

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