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Reply #120 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

freediver wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:23pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:

'Secularists' raped 91 women in Tahrir Square ~ plus the naive little Western blonde journalist who escaped from a mass gang-bang by the shirt off her back.

Not Muslims, I'm told. Secularists.

According to many Muslims (eg Abu), if you are a secularist then by definition you are not a Muslim.

Yes, many Christians say this too.

Typical.

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Reply #122 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 10:44pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:

'Secularists' raped 91 women in Tahrir Square ~ plus the naive little Western blonde journalist who escaped from a mass gang-bang by the shirt off her back.

Not Muslims, I'm told. Secularists.

"I was raped by Secularists!" those 91 women are now telling anyone who will listen.

That's a good sanitation job by the Apologists.

'Secularists'.

In this context, "secularists" refers to those protesting against Morsy.

How do you know they were Muslims?

Oh? SO being a secularist is about context now?!? Is there anything in the Muslim world that can be taken at face value? Is there anything that is not twisted and evaded and contorted, in the guise of 'context'; the ever shifting, ever morphing 'context'?

What is the 'context' of the rapes on Tahrir Square? Of the church bombings and Copt killings? The people who are protesting against Morsi are Mubarak supporters and salafists. Context? The Muslim Brotherhood lied about governing for all. 'Context'?
No matter how much the Muslims bugger up, it is always misunderstood because there is a 'context' that whoever is critical of it will never understand.
It's like the need for 'context' of classical arabic to understand the Koran: a load of bollocks.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95295 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #123 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:06pm Quite right, old boy, the context that the overwealming majority of the biggest Arab country would rather a military coup than have the Muslim Brotherhood in power. Never ever, eh?
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Reply #124 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:15pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:06pm:

Quite right, old boy, the context that the overwealming majority of the biggest Arab country would rather a military coup than have the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

Never ever, eh?

Barely a year after the majority of said Muslim country elected the Muslim Brotherhood to govern them. And this is the cultural centre of Islam.

They sound fvckn worse than the Labor Party, and that's sayingsomething. Talk about being completely lost.
Needless to say, Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin', as always.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #125 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

True Colours wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:33pm:

Can the Islamic crowd be taken as civilised by lone females?

... and 'No!' ~ of course it's not the men's fault if a woman should get raped for intruding upon a men's rally in an Islamic country.

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Egyptian civil rights activists say that at least 91 women were sexually assaulted or raped in Tahrir Square during protests, which began last Sunday.

That is just soooo bloody 'Muslim'.

These assaults did not occur at Muslim Brotherhood or Islamist protests, but were reported to have occurred in the midst oif crowds of opposition supporters who are largely secularists, Christians and agents of the Egyptian military.

It looks like we have another delusional muslim here.

Do you even know what a secularist is?

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An Egyptian Salafi preacher said raping and sexually harassing women protestors in Cairo's Tahrir square is justified, calling them crusaders who have no shame, no fear and not even feminism.

Abu Islam added these women activists are going to Tahrir square because they want to be raped.
english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/07/264982

Only a muslim will say rape is justified, have you seen the rape fatwas from Syria?

I listened to his words, and he does not seem to say that raping women is "justified". He is critical of the women opposing the government, but the "justified" part doesn't exist and seems to be the creation of the newspaper.

Al-Arabiyah is owned by the Saudi government who hates the Muslim Brotherhood and anyone who supports them. To put this in context, the owner of Al-Arabiya news network, just promised to give the military generals of Egypt $5billion.

Fair and unbiased reporting?

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Reply #126 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:34pm

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:06pm:

Quite right, old boy, the context that the overwealming majority of the biggest Arab country would rather a military coup than have the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

Never ever, eh?

Barely a year after the majority of said Muslim country elected the Muslim Brotherhood to govern them. And this is the cultural centre of Islam.

Morsi was not directly elected.

Of course, you knew this already, old chap. I remember you jumping with joy when Morsi came to power.

And this is the cultural centre of Islam, eh?

Absolutely. Always. On stilts.

You must miss Morsi so, old chap.

Never.mind. At least they’re killing Islamicists in the cultural centre of Islam.

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Reply #127 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:47pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:34pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:15pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:06pm:

Quite right, old boy, the context that the overwealming majority of the biggest Arab country would rather a military coup than have the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

Never ever, eh?

Barely a year after the majority of said Muslim country elected the Muslim Brotherhood to govern them. And this is the cultural centre of Islam.

Morsi was not directly elected.

Of course, you knew this already, old chap. I remember you jumping with joy when Morsi came to power.

And this is the cultural centre of Islam, eh?

Absolutely. Always. On stilts.

You must miss Morsi so, old chap.

Never.mind. At least they’re killing Islamicists in the cultural centre of Islam.

If only you made sense.
But you are afflicted with the sickness of never saying anything, only making allusions and references. Leaping from allusion to allusion, you become ridiculous, like the nuns of the Order of St Beryl.

Leaping here leaping there, leaping, leaping everywhere.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95295 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #128 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 12:57am Nothing to see here, eh? Oh, old boy, you’re such a tease.
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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #129 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

Muslims once again demonstrating why they are unfit for immigration to Western societies.

It's just endless bad news about these Medievalists.

It's time to forcibly repatriate those in jail, and those who have demonstrated an anti-social attitude towards Western society.

We need them like termites in the foundation pillars of our homeland societies.

Perhaps Abbott might have a plan for the Muslim troublemakers.

Send them all off to Cairo for ritual hand-jobs by Brotherhood bitches in burqas.

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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #130 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:08pm ^Sloppy journalism. The headlines reads "...links to terrorism" but if you read the article it has nothing to do with terrorism. It is just that the UK government doesn't like their religious beliefs. Freedom of religion? No longer in the UK.
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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #131 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:48pm

True Colours wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:08pm:

^Sloppy journalism. The headlines reads "...links to terrorism" but if you read the article it has nothing to do with terrorism. It is just that the UK government doesn't like their religious beliefs.

Freedom of religion? No longer in the UK.

They were handing out flyers saying that muslim parents who didn't attend a meeting of support for the school would be condemned.

I don't believe the UK government is against islamic schools per se and I tend to take them at their word when they cite links to extremists as their reason for pulling the plug.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #132 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

They were handing out flyers saying that muslim parents who didn't attend a meeting of support for the school would be condemned.

Some facts:

* the leaflet was handed out by a totally different organisation (Sunniyy Centre) to the organisation trying to open a school (Northern Lights)
*Northern Lights has denied having any links with Sunniyy Centre

From what I read the leaflet does not even say that the parents will be condemned for not attending, but has been totally misconstrued by bigots who oppose the school.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

I don't believe the UK government is against islamic schools per se and I tend to take them at their word when they cite links to extremists as their reason for pulling the plug.

Do you still believe that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? That boat people threw their children overboard? Don't be a gullible fool.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #133 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:28pm

True Colours wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 3:08pm:

It is just that the UK government doesn't like their religious beliefs.

For 50 years the UK government has been falling over itself to please-and-appease the Muslim community.

In your desperation to excuse and 'explain' the appalling news that keeps making headlines for all the wrong reasons about Muslims, you and gandalf have long since begun to resort to the absurd.

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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #134 - Jul 15^th, 2013 at 6:39pm Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 15^th, 2013 at 4:28pm: For 50 years the UK government has been falling over itself to please-and-appease the Muslim community. Oh really? Speaking of appeasing, why did they invade Iraq and Afghanistan? Who was the appeasement aimed at?
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