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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #60 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:58pm

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:14pm:

Are you going to compare Islam to Nazism for us? Islam is better than some other types of dictatorship, therefor Islam is not a stagnating force that undermines the march of freedom and democracy - is that your argument?

The islamic world FD, don't bring in irrelevant topics - especially the nazis, or I'll have to start accusing you of invoking Godwin's law.

I'm talking about Saddam, the Assads, the Algerian military regime etc. You're not seriously saying any islamst rule in the middle east compares to them in brutality?

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:14pm:

Right, it is replacing secular oppression with Islamic oppression. Well done.

Tunisia, Egypt and even the islamic Erdogan in Turkey has dissapointed the knuckleheads by being remarkably moderate and responsible.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #61 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:28pm

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I'm talking about Saddam, the Assads, the Algerian military regime etc. You're not seriously saying any islamst rule in the middle east compares to them in brutality?

I'll leave the comparisons to you. I never could even figure out which ones count as an Islamist regime. It appears to depend on which Muslim you ask.

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Tunisia, Egypt and even the islamic Erdogan in Turkey has dissapointed the knuckleheads by being remarkably moderate and responsible.

By Muslim standards.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #62 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:40pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:19pm:

I take issue with anyone blowing anything up in the name of anything.

That's very big of you, PB.

The objection to Islam is not just that an awful lot of violence is committed while allahu akhbaring. That, after all, is the tip of the ideological iceberg, the spectacular, the once startling but now enervating commonplace result of the much more substantial and underlying ideological and political and ethical white noise of Islamic ideology.

Which you are (pretending to be) deaf to and Gandy smudges at every opportunity as if every one of the thousands of atrocities committed in the name of Islam ('violent while allahu akhbaring') was an utterly isolated and baffling misunderstanding of Islam.

But Islam is not unrelated to the violence. It is the source of these violent acts. What is even more significant, there are plenty more Muslim sympathisers with all that violence than the actual Muslims who do the killing and slashing and and all the rest of it.

And so your schtick, the enervated 'nuffin to see here, nuffin to do wiv Islam' is either dishonest (Abu) or stupid (SOB and the other phosphorescents). In your case, I'd bet both.

Marvellous stuff, old boy, but it doesn’t answer the question that started this thread.

If the Muselmen are so intent on blowing things up in the name of Allah Uakbar, well not that that’s the problem - so ideologically and politically and ethically tiresome - why do you need to make stuff up?

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Islam offers very limited opportunities for joining the dots it presents to the world in new and creative or unexpected ways.

When you hear that police shot a knife wielding man in a predominantly Muslim part of a Western city, you think - what? "Ah, must be one of the 20%! Who has ever heard of a knife wielding Muslim??!?!" Shocked

In other words, Islam's reputation precedes it.

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #63 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:49pm

Soren wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:19pm:

I take issue with anyone blowing anything up in the name of anything.

That's very big of you, PB.

The objection to Islam is not just that an awful lot of violence is committed while allahu akhbaring. That, after all, is the tip of the ideological iceberg, the spectacular, the once startling but now enervating commonplace result of the much more substantial and underlying ideological and political and ethical white noise of Islamic ideology.

Which you are (pretending to be) deaf to and Gandy smudges at every opportunity as if every one of the thousands of atrocities committed in the name of Islam ('violent while allahu akhbaring') was an utterly isolated and baffling misunderstanding of Islam.

But Islam is not unrelated to the violence. It is the source of these violent acts. What is even more significant, there are plenty more Muslim sympathisers with all that violence than the actual Muslims who do the killing and slashing and and all the rest of it.

And so your schtick, the enervated 'nuffin to see here, nuffin to do wiv Islam' is either dishonest (Abu) or stupid (SOB and the other phosphorescents). In your case, I'd bet both.

Marvellous stuff, old boy, but it doesn’t answer the question that started this thread.

If the Muselmen are so intent on blowing things up in the name of Allah Uakbar, well not that that’s the problem - so ideologically and politically and ethically tiresome - why do you need to make stuff up?

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Islam offers very limited opportunities for joining the dots it presents to the world in new and creative or unexpected ways.

When you hear that police shot a knife wielding man in a predominantly Muslim part of a Western city, you think - what? "Ah, must be one of the 20%! Who has ever heard of a knife wielding Muslim??!?!" Shocked

In other words, Islam's reputation precedes it.

Exactly. Your own hubris is the Muselmen’s fault too.

You see?

Never ever. Absolutely. Ever. Ever. On stilts.

I blame the Muselmen. How do they GET such a reputation? Joining the dots, eh?

Marvellous stuff.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #64 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 11:07pm Brilliant isn't it? - Muslims can now be blamed for the knuckleheads' baseless slander about them. Meanwhile, over at the other thread, FD is inventing new verses from the quran.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95295 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #65 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 12:23am Yes, but he wouldn’t need to do that if Mo didn’t write it in the first place. I blame the Moslems. They teach their kids to kill George Bush.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18312 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #66 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 12:51am Mohammad was residing in a cave when he came up with Islam. What makes you think Mohammad was not a pretender?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95295 Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #67 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:01am Mohamed heard a voice called the angel Gabriel and told someone who wrote it down. The old boy heard some story about a stabbing and joined the dots. Who’s pretending?
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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #68 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:16am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 5:23pm:

K, I admit it all - jihadwatch cannot be denied.

But thats not even half of it. Ask Yadda how we have infiltrated the British government and Mi5.

Our efforts to pull the wool over everyone's eyes is simply no match for Yadda's mighty weaponry of truth: with mad bearded placard bearing protestor images in one hand, and google search strings in the other, we are in full retreat. Onward christian soldiers!

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Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:18am:

Vintage Y. A classic.

He writes them all from scratch, you know.

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Karnal wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:19pm:

I have answered all your questions to me here and addressed their content time and time again. Repeatedly.

I shouldn’t have to rebut the same Jihadwatch quotes and photos endlessly. They’re so old now they’re fading from wear.

Write something new,

or better yet, go out and experience something new. In the real world. If you can tell me one thing that’s happened to you personally, I’ll kiss your feet.

K and G,

Well i'm sorry, K, that you find the examples which i present about ISLAMIST Jihad behaviour, to be annoyingly repetitive.

Of course K, [old or new], i try to show examples about ISLAMIST Jihad behaviour and ISLAMIST Jihad tactics that are the most elucidative.

But when presenting information about ISLAMIST, it doesn't really matter if the specific example is from 10 years ago, or from yesterday,

"Tennessee imam: Jews and Christians filthy, their lives and property can be taken in jihad by the Muslims"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/06/tennessee-imam-jews-and-christians-filthy-thei...

....because

with moslems/ISLAM, the more things change, the more they stay the same

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More annoyingly repetitive examples of moslems behaving badly....

http://www.jihadwatch.org/jihad-doctrine/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/useful-idiots/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/moderate-muslims/

......but hey, shouldn't you two be castigating more moslems, and forgiving more of us infidels critics of moslem bad behaviour ???

IMAGE...

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
And it is so, so, annoying, to see this image being used in this forum, again and again, isn't it. Tongue

And Jihadwatch ???

Organisations like Jihadwatch are doing a great service for mankind, by 'shining a light', and exposing to us all, how the ISLAMISTS deceitfully operate, and what the intents of the ISLAMISTS are.

I do apologise that the message of organisations like Jihadwatch, are so repetitive. Tongue

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #70 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:18pm

Soren wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:14am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:01am:

Mohamed heard a voice called the angel Gabriel and told someone who wrote it down.

The old boy heard some story about a stabbing and joined the dots. Who’s pretending?

So I'm a prophet!!
YAY!

More than this, my frien, you are a Muslim, a good man, one of us.

Have you thought of colouring in as well?

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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #71 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:21pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:16am:

And Jihadwatch ???

Organisations like Jihadwatch are doing a great service for mankind, by 'shining a light', and exposing to us all, how the ISLAMISTS deceitfully operate, and what the intents of the ISLAMISTS are.

That's right, Y. Good works. They should be entitled to the status of charity.

Blessed are the peacemakers.

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shockresist Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151 sydney Gender:	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #72 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:50pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 12:51am: Mohammad was residing in a cave when he came up with Islam. What makes you think Mohammad was not a pretender? Only one verse of the Koran was revealed to him in the cave.He didn't come up with islam the angel Gabriel revealed it to him.
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously? Reply #73 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:10pm No Kernal it is blessed are the CHEESE MAKERS. Please try to keep up, I know muslim girls are not allowed an education but your ignorance is pathetic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=slbMe-aTY1A#t=10s
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Re: Can the anti-islam crowd here be taken seriously?
Reply #74 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 3:02pm

Adamant wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

No Kernal it is blessed are the CHEESE MAKERS. Please try to keep up, I know muslim girls are not allowed an education but your ignorance is pathetic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=slbMe-aTY1A#t=10s

Quite right. Still, effende, we are taught to kill, you must admit that.

Yadda wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 3:48pm:

......"Who do you kill?" asked Khan.
"America kill," said the boy.
"Who else you kill?" said Khan.
"Bush I kill," said the boy.
"And who else?" demanded Khan.
"Blair kill, both people kill."
"Who else you kill?" asked Khan.
"Saddam, Saddam," said the boy.
Then the pair began chanting at each other.
Khan said: "Kuffar [non-believers]" the boy said: "Kill."
Khan said: "Mushrik [polytheists]" and the boy said: "Kill."[/color][/i]

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/02/uk-jihadist-taught-five-year-old-son-kuffar---...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/18/nkidnap218.xml
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