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Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:23am
 
I can see the logic of it from a legal standpoint and of course it gives the unions a chance to grandstand.
But to me it seems the logical consequence will be the unemployment rate for young people will just get even higher than it is now . . .which is pretty high.

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The Australian Retailers Association says it opposes lowering the age for the adult wage.

It says the move could boost an individual's wage bill by $6,500 extra a year.

The Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association has applied to the Fair Work Commission to lower the age at which the adult wage applies.

It currently kicks in at the age of 21.

'Same work' The association's Joe DeBruyn says it should be paid once a worker turns 18.

"It's particularly ridiculous when you look at the way people aged 18 and above are doing exactly the same work," he said.

"People aged 18 can vote, they can enter into legal contracts, they can get married without parental consent." But Retailers Association chief executive Russell Zimmerman says if the application succeeds it will make younger workers less employable.

"We believe that the employers will just simply move to starting to employ seniors rather than juniors," he said.

"If you go to an 18-year-old who has had very little real-world experience they would not be able to give you that same ability and support." Both parties will address a hearing that begins in Melbourne today.
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Reply #1 - Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:49am
 
and this won't help . . .


Job seekers are in for a difficult time as weak economic growth and uncertainty over the federal election make Australian businesses reluctant to employ new staff.

Businesses don't plan to hire in the months ahead and more job cuts and off-shoring announcements could be on the horizon, according to Dun and Bradstreet's latest Business Expectations Survey.

Hiring expectations have declined for six consecutive quarters to their lowest level in four years, with companies in the construction, manufacturing and retail sectors expecting the biggest level of employment reduction.
"With little spark to be found in the domestic economy, businesses are wary of investing, instead focusing on their core operations and controlling their costs," Dun and Bradstreet chief executive Gareth Jones said.

"It appears businesses don't see any substantial improvement in trading conditions in the new financial year to make them prepare for growth, while the upcoming federal election is also creating uncertainty and dampening new activity."

More than 40 per cent of the executives surveyed cited operational costs as their biggest barrier to growth in the September quarter, while 25 per cent cited weak demand for their product.

Almost one quarter expect that a coalition victory at the federal election would be more favourable for their operations.

Dun and Bradstreet economic adviser Stephen Koukoulas said the business sector was unambiguously preparing for weaker activity.

"Of most concern is the scaling back in employment intentions, which points to net job shedding and undoubtedly a rise in the unemployment rate in the next few months," Mr Koukoulas said.

"These business expectations point to the opportunity for the Reserve Bank to further cut interest rates."
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:28pm
 
You can add to that the decline in the mining sector - once claimed to be our saviour in this lovely, sun-drenched Third World Banana Republic..... both my son-in-law and the d-i-l's husband, who work respectively as an electrician and a hydraulics mechanic in the mines - were laid off only a few weeks ago...

Maybe a good thing for the electrician - he walked into a leading hand job straight away.....

Still - the issue is that this Banana Republic is running out of bananas to offshore.......
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Reply #3 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:13am
 
My brother cant get a part time job in retail while he studies because of his age and misses out to 17 year olds all the time.

While I think if you are old enough to vote you are old enough to be paid as an adult, retailers just wont hire them.

Its a double edged sword sadly.
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Reply #4 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:06pm
 
the d-i-l's husband,

I had to think about this . . .you mean your son?
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Reply #5 - Jul 5th, 2013 at 3:11pm
 
Time was when employers were required to hire x-number of 'juniors' for each 'senior' employee.  And in between were the intermediates

It worked.  The seniors coached the intermediates and juniors in what was expected of them by the employer

It also ensured older people were employed

At our local supermarket, for well over a decade, there have been two, maybe three 'seniors' with the bulk of employees being green as grass, entitled kids who think they're too big, too important and too proud to have to say 'thank you' to the paying customer who provides them their job

The seniors know they're on borrowed time and work like navvies, bums up, heads down, three bags full SIR !

We know perfectly well that BOTH political parties in this unlucky, blighted, ruined country are hell bent on creating a slave class only marginally more independent than welfare drone majorities

It began with the Lima Declaration in 1975, when 'our' traitorous government of the day signed on to send overseas, immediately, 30% of Aussies jobs and 30% of Aussie manufacturing.  These days, it's running at 85% or higher

They're ALL part of it.  There are NO good guys within our political parties or leaders

They have already ruined this country and with it probably your life and most certainly those of your kids and grandkids

Does anyone really believe they introduced maternity and paternity leave for YOUR benefit ?  Anyone silly enough to believe the 'adult wage for 18 year olds' is for YOUR benefit ?

Wake up

It's just another nail in your coffin

So let me know when you're planning an Egyptian or Brazilian type action

but make it within the next 20 years or I'll be pushing up daisies and unable to help
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Reply #6 - Jul 5th, 2013 at 3:20pm
 
It's no good getting despondent about it all PZ.
WE are going through a great movement in the economic tectonic plates and just like the geology does, it comes back to equilibrium sooner or later.
That's not to say there won't be casualties along the way but name me a time, not in the future, when there wasn't.
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