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Re: Ed Husic - unconstitutional act ?
Reply #90 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:58pm

Alinta wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:48pm:

Alinta wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:43pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

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Since the Queen is the head of the Church of england and any member of Parliament is making an oath of alleigance to the Queen then why on earth would a person use a Koran when doing so, unless of course , it is the intent to make that oath null and void.

So, you are telling me that a Muslim cannot affirm allegiance to the Queen? Really?

Cheesy

I didnt say he couldnt, what I am asking is why would a Muslim swear an oath of alleigance on a Koran to the head of the Christian church? You can argue that Australia is a secular state but if so, why use the Koran?

What should a Muslim use?

what else? they must swear an oath to the head of the Taliban

The oath of allegiance need not necessarily be made on the authorised version of the Bible, although this has been the common practice. A Member may recite the oath while holding another form of Christian holy book, or, in respect of a non-Christian faith, a book or work of such a nature. The essential requirement is that every Member taking an oath should take it in a manner which affects his or her conscience regardless of whether a holy book is used or not.

I understand that Alinta, my last comment was tongue in cheek.

hahaha......I should have looked more closely at who was posting each comment in the discussion!!!!!!!!!

all good.

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Re: Ed Husic - unconstitutional act ?
Reply #91 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:08pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

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Since the Queen is the head of the Church of england and any member of Parliament is making an oath of alleigance to the Queen then why on earth would a person use a Koran when doing so, unless of course , it is the intent to make that oath null and void.

So, you are telling me that a Muslim cannot affirm allegiance to the Queen? Really?

Cheesy

I didnt say he couldnt, what I am asking is why would a Muslim swear an oath of alleigance on a Koran to the head of the Christian church? You can argue that Australia is a secular state but if so, why use the Koran?

What should a Muslim use?

Nothing. The Koran is incompatible with the Christian church. You gullible fools arent even questioning it.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Ed Husic - unconstitutional act ? Reply #92 - Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:10pm John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm: because she s not JUST the head of a church, she is also the head of the Commonwealth God comes above state, dont you think? Hasic as a Muislim would certainly beleive this.
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Re: Ed Husic - unconstitutional act ?
Reply #95 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:38am

ian wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm:

because she s not JUST the head of a church, she is also the head of the Commonwealth

God comes above state, dont you think? Hasic as a Muislim would certainly beleive this.

not at all .... if you want to place some pretend figure ahead of state, go for it ....

besides, we weren't rating the importance of the rankings, you asked why he would make an oath to the queen, I gave you a reason.

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Re: Ed Husic - unconstitutional act ?
Reply #96 - Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:44am

ian wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:34pm:

ian wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Quote:

Since the Queen is the head of the Church of england and any member of Parliament is making an oath of alleigance to the Queen then why on earth would a person use a Koran when doing so, unless of course , it is the intent to make that oath null and void.

So, you are telling me that a Muslim cannot affirm allegiance to the Queen? Really?

Cheesy

I didnt say he couldnt, what I am asking is why would a Muslim swear an oath of alleigance on a Koran to the head of the Christian church? You can argue that Australia is a secular state but if so, why use the Koran?

What should a Muslim use?

Nothing. The Koran is incompatible with the Christian church. You gullible fools arent even questioning it.

Yes. He's not being sworn into the Christian Church though.

Using the Koran to be sworn into Parliament is not unconstitutional.

End of story.

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