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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Debates before an election date Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called? Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election He is sneaky
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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #1 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:27pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

What to reengage the electorate and tony on policy? Why won't Tony debate? Why does their need to be an election for us to hear from him? Why is he so scared?

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Debates before an election date Reply #2 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:35pm If Mr Rudd would like a debate, Christine Milne is available. Unlike Mr Abbott, Christine has the ticker and able to string a sentence together.
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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #3 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

What to reengage the electorate and tony on policy? Why won't Tony debate? Why does their need to be an election for us to hear from him? Why is he so scared?

no other opposition leader has ever had an election debate without an electio so why should Abbott? If you want abbotts policies and abbotts debate then come up with an actual election date with writs and the dissolving of parliament and all that nice constitutional stuff!

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #4 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

What to reengage the electorate and tony on policy? Why won't Tony debate? Why does their need to be an election for us to hear from him? Why is he so scared?

no other opposition leader has ever had an election debate without an electio so why should Abbott? If you want abbotts policies and abbotts debate then come up with an actual election date with writs and the dissolving of parliament and all that nice constitutional stuff!

So what? Nothing like starting a new tradition.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #5 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:25pm

What on earth is a policy debate with the opposition prior to an election being called going to achieve FFS.

Just shows Rudd is bereft of any idea of what a competent government is meant to do - ie. govern. He thinks its a game, goes out making a daft headline, his outcomes are clearly only measured in how much spin he can conjure up.

He's never run a competent government so I guess he just doesn't have an effing clue of what to do. Talk about promoted well above his capabilities.

I can imagine as a PS in Qld he always had outstanding references from his superiors....they would have been keen as mustard just pleased to see the back of him, and being the PS, he couldn't get sacked so he got moved sideways and promoted and now we have the weasel chinned mealy mouthed fat twat.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #6 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

What to reengage the electorate and tony on policy? Why won't Tony debate? Why does their need to be an election for us to hear from him? Why is he so scared?

no other opposition leader has ever had an election debate without an electio so why should Abbott? If you want abbotts policies and abbotts debate then come up with an actual election date with writs and the dissolving of parliament and all that nice constitutional stuff!

So you think if the libs win they should just do what labor's been doing? Why vote liberal then?

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #7 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

Never seen an opposition leader who would not bend over backwards for a chance to debate the government.

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

Never seen an opposition leader who would not bend over backwards for a chance to debate the government.

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

Tony would bend over backwards too. For different reasons though.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #9 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

Never seen an opposition leader who would not bend over backwards for a chance to debate the government.

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

Exactly, it's always the opposition wanting to put out their policy and show it as superior to the governments. When you have no policy that is hard to achieve. No wonder phony Tony is so scared of debate.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #10 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:49pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

Never seen an opposition leader who would not bend over backwards for a chance to debate the government.

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

Exactly, it's always the opposition wanting to put out their policy and show it as superior to the governments. When you have no policy that is hard to achieve. No wonder phony Tony is so scared of debate.

The look on his face in the last few days is priceless.

He's realised that he might not actually ever become PM, and it's killing him.

Watch out for Malcolm, Tony. Grin

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #11 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

Tony would bend over backwards too. For different reasons though.

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Agreed, it has been an odd period where the govt has let themselves be defined by the opposition. Indeed, you would think they would know by now that running a campaign on tearing down Abbott just makes the bloke into a governing like figure and catapults the bloke into national prominence and grants him extraordinary powers.

But here they are again, instead of speaking up their own record it is once more the emphasis on Tony.

Slow learners? Has McTernan gone yet?

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #12 - Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

no other opposition leader has ever had an election debate without an electio so why should Abbott?

Abbott could EASILY say ... "as many as you can handle, as soon as you give an election date"

( ... but he'd prefer NONE at ALL as, policy aside, Abbott knows Rudd would eat him alive at debating)

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #13 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 6:44am

Datalife wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Typically it is the government who laugh at attempts from the opposition to force a debate.

Tony would bend over backwards too. For different reasons though.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/files/2010/10/pyne.jpg

Agreed, it has been an odd period where the govt has let themselves be defined by the opposition. Indeed, you would think they would know by now that running a campaign on tearing down Abbott just makes the bloke into a governing like figure and catapults the bloke into national prominence and grants him extraordinary powers.

But here they are again, instead of speaking up their own record it is once more the emphasis on Tony.

Slow learners? Has McTernan gone yet?
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Hahahahaha!

The libs tactics are exposed now because they are no longer working. All their supporters are floundering just as much because they havent been told what the slogans are for this week. Its hilarious. Trying to twist it around so its the government picking on poor tony isnt going to work either because ppl KNOW abbotts campaign of hate for the last 3 years.

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Re: Debates before an election date
Reply #14 - Jul 5^th, 2013 at 11:42am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:56pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

When was the last time Labor agreed to a leader's debate before an election is called?

Rudd knows the current polls are an aberration and he's well behind. This is why he's asked for a debate before an election

He is sneaky

What to reengage the electorate and tony on policy? Why won't Tony debate? Why does their need to be an election for us to hear from him? Why is he so scared?

no other opposition leader has ever had an election debate without an electio so why should Abbott? If you want abbotts policies and abbotts debate then come up with an actual election date with writs and the dissolving of parliament and all that nice constitutional stuff!

So what? Nothing like starting a new tradition.

that tradition died in 1993. I said at the time that that election would end the practice of oppositions or govts putting forward detailed policies well ahead of the election. justified or not, the result of that election told all parties that you will be punished for be open, transparent and innovative on policy.

the voting public only has itself to blame.

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