Kat wrote on Jul 10
th, 2013 at 8:34am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 10
th, 2013 at 8:26am:
Kat wrote on Jul 10
th, 2013 at 8:20am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 10
th, 2013 at 8:04am:
muso wrote on Jul 9
th, 2013 at 7:48pm:
What virtually every poster is missing is the motivation of the Indonesians in all of this. Their motivation is moolah, pure and simple. I've been to plenty of poor countries, and it's always the same. The Indonesians are very cunning when it comes to money. Even with the disaster in Aceh, the only thing that the poor people ended up with was packet noodles. The aid money is still going round and round in government circles.
So Kev says to Sosilo, "We don't want to offend you guys and take unilateral action. So chill. We'll help you out (**money***) with patrol boats.
Sosilo's translator says "This guy will give you money if you say that unilateral action is not acceptable. Oh - the money is for patrol boats by the way"
Sosilo smiles broadly and thinks "Sucker - he's giving us money"
Kev goes back to Australia "See - the Indonesians agree with us"
Of course Abbott can't very easily state the bleeding obvious, because it would offend the Indonesians.
Kev 1 Tony 0
Abbott will do what needs to be done AFTER he is elected, and not before.
So your Kev 1 Tony 0 is meaningless.
Abbott will NEVER do what needs to be done.
And that, is onshore processing and community-detention.
24/7 GPS ankle-bracelet monitoring.
Maximum 3 months to process.
Failures on the next plane out.
Is Tony going to do that?
No?
Well, fuggim,
and his xenophobe supporters.
Next plane out to ?????, Greeniesville.
No identities remember.
And no, Tony is not going to do that, or install any failed policy for that matter.
He'll leave that to Labor.
The Coalition's policy will DETER smugglers, not attract them.
How can it be 'failed' when it was never tried?
THAT was what the electorate wanted done when they demanded that Howard close his Concentration Camps.
And that's exactly what the electorate got when Howard closed down all the mainland concentration camps with the exception of Villawood, and their were only a handful of country shoppers on the concentration camp in Nauru.
Why?
Because they weren't needed any more.
Why?
Because the boats stopped coming.
Labor re-opened all the concentration camps, remember, and even built more concentration camps and still cant keep up with the demand.
And it should be quite obvious that the government cant return people to their home country when their identity has not been established.
You think passports are going over the side of smugglers boats when our naval personnel are 40 meters away from boarding for no reason?
Allowing people into the community who's identity is not established, and won't be is ludicrous.
And people are well aware that the lunatic Greens are just fine with the policy you've thrown up, but the vast majority wouldn't have a bar of it and rightfully so.
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