Australian Politics Forum - The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2)

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Reply #255 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:12pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

LOL Love the irony.

I honestly can't envisage the day that I take advice from one of the most ignorant trolls on this forum.

Thanks though. No, really. Thank you. Grin

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

But you never had much of an argumentto start with.

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

the fact that you DONT think that killing is bad is rather sad. You always come across as an angry violent person.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #256 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:05pm BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm: Killing is bad, mmkay You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay You're starting to learn. Good. Very good.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137413 Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #257 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:18pm BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm: Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground. This just gets funnier. Even when you aren't losing ground, which isn't very often at all, you are resorting to personal abuse. It's pretty much all you do.
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Reply #258 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 7:58am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

LOL Love the irony.

I honestly can't envisage the day that I take advice from one of the most ignorant trolls on this forum.

Thanks though. No, really. Thank you. Grin

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

But you never had much of an argumentto start with.

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

the fact that you DONT think that killing is bad is rather sad. You always come across as an angry violent person.

Killing is bad most of the time, but not all of the time; sometimes it is the right thing to do.

See in the real world not everything is extreme black and white, it the real world there are shades of grey.

You don't have to be angry to be a realist, see here is a smiley face just for you longy.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104630 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #259 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:01am BigOl - if you're a killer then let me see your war face:
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Reply #260 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:05pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

You're starting to learn.

Good. Very good.

Yes, and you should have learned the subtlety of sarcasm, and in this case just sarcasm. Grin

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Reply #261 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

This just gets funnier.

Even when you aren't losing ground, which isn't very often at all, you are resorting to personal abuse.

It's pretty much all you do.

Really, care to show where I personnally abused you, and we'll count who is more abusive than whom.

Once again you are desperate enough to lie and so poorly, only proves you are losing your argument.

So thanks for that.

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Reply #262 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 8:25am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

ian wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

Luke Fowler wrote on Jul 10^th, 2013 at 7:18pm:

So you would like to introduce evidence about a person's past crimes in order to make it easier to convict them for the offence that they are currently accused of committing?

Thank you. You don't realise it just yet, but you have made a very good argument against why we should not allow the death penalty.

Give yourself time, you will see it eventually.

A convicted persons previous criminal history already is used in sentencing. Were you not aware of that?

it is used in SENTENCING, not in a trials deliberations of guilt. A previous criminal record is considered prejudicial (and it is).

It was you who made up this course of action, when you, once gain, deliberately misprepresented someone else's post. And now you are trying to argue against your own friggen made up lie. Grin

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Reply #263 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 10:35am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

LOL Love the irony.

I honestly can't envisage the day that I take advice from one of the most ignorant trolls on this forum.

Thanks though. No, really. Thank you. Grin

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

But you never had much of an argumentto start with.

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

the fact that you DONT think that killing is bad is rather sad. You always come across as an angry violent person.

Rather extraordinary, wasn't it.

Makes one wonder.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #264 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:32am Killing has its place in society. Always has.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104630 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #265 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:44am ian wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:32am: Killing has its place in society. Always has. Just like the Romans: Are we any different to the Romans?
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Reply #266 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 10:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

LOL Love the irony.

I honestly can't envisage the day that I take advice from one of the most ignorant trolls on this forum.

Thanks though. No, really. Thank you. Grin

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

But you never had much of an argumentto start with.

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

the fact that you DONT think that killing is bad is rather sad. You always come across as an angry violent person.

Rather extraordinary, wasn't it.

Makes one wonder.

I find it extrodinary that you two can not think of a situation where killing is not only appropriate but needed. This type of blindness is usually only seen in males suffering from extreme cowardice.

Jeez killing someone who intends killing another person, not only legal but highly recommended by 10 out of 10 victims; but of course not you two heros.

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Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2)
Reply #267 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:09pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 10:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

LOL Love the irony.

I honestly can't envisage the day that I take advice from one of the most ignorant trolls on this forum.

Thanks though. No, really. Thank you. Grin

Odd how both you and longy resort to lies and personal abuse when you sart losing ground.

But you never had much of an argumentto start with.

Killing is bad, mmkay

You shouldn't kill, killing is bad ......... mmkay

the fact that you DONT think that killing is bad is rather sad. You always come across as an angry violent person.

Rather extraordinary, wasn't it.

Makes one wonder.

I find it extrodinary that you two can not think of a situation where killing is not only appropriate but needed. This type of blindness is usually only seen in males suffering from extreme cowardice.

I find it extraodinary that you think I've ever said that. I haven't.

My position is, and has always been:

There is no place in a civilised society for the use of premediated state-sanctioned killing as a form of punishment.

Thanks for your input though.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: The Death Penalty is still drawin' a crowd (pt 2) Reply #268 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:49pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:44am: Are we any different to the Romans? Not really, our society is rapidly becoming ever more decadent, just like the Romans. Most people live their lives vicariously through the media and are completly out of touch with reality.
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Reply #269 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:58pm

We know that killing another human being is not something that most humans can do. Thats why sodliers need to be taught how to do so by training. Even so, in battle some soldiers simply can not kill another human, they simply can not pull the trigger. (yes there is ample evidence of this) So killing another human is not part of what we consider to be the normal human condition. However, what about those who dont suffer from those inbuilt inhibitions to kill other humans, there is a case to be made that evolution throws up not only those who prey on humans (wolves) and can kill with impunity but also those who are here to hunt the predators (sheepdogs). The sheep will never understand this, they will sleep at night thinking that there is good in everyone and defend to the death everyones right to life. They will never admit that their very existence depends on the sheepdogs, i.e those prepared to kill in their defence.

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