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Reply #15 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:57pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea?

It would be appalling if we didn't go to their rescue.

Under Labor more than 1000 have died compared to 200

So it's clear that Labor wants them killed off

How many died in Indonesia because there were no boats available? Didn't they die because of coalition policy too? or you don't count the ones that aren't published in the local papers? Or perhaps you don't care once they cross an imaginary line?

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Socrates Gold Member Offline A Dog With A Bone Posts: 583 Gender:	Re: can anyone explain Reply #16 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 3:03pm The Royal Australian Navy people taxis........the money making people smugglers are laughing their arses off, their overheads have decreased substantially.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: can anyone explain Reply #17 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 3:19pm Society is collectively responsible for refugees drowning on the high seas...humanity must fight for human security and the abolition of poverty, inequality and injustice....Fight like hell against libertarians and obectivists....
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: can anyone explain Reply #18 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:40am John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:24am: maritme laws as well as common decency dictate that when a boat is in distress, the nearest ship will go to it's aid, regardless of whose waters it is in. The rest of the maritime law states that the boat will be taken to the nearest port.
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Reply #19 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:42am

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea?

It would be appalling if we didn't go to their rescue.

Under Labor more than 1000 have died compared to 200

So it's clear that Labor wants them killed off

How many died in Indonesia because there were no boats available? Didn't they die because of coalition policy too? or you don't count the ones that aren't published in the local papers? Or perhaps you don't care once they cross an imaginary line?

So we are now looking at the "no boats available" situation ie when they are in Indonesia??? Grin

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Reply #20 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:42am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea?

It would be appalling if we didn't go to their rescue.

No, inform the Indonesians that a boat in their jurisdiction has sent a distress signal of course.
It's up to them.
We shouldn't have to go hunting all over the world for these country shoppers.

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Reply #21 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:47am

John Smith wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea?

It would be appalling if we didn't go to their rescue.

Under Labor more than 1000 have died compared to 200

So it's clear that Labor wants them killed off

How many died in Indonesia because there were no boats available? Didn't they die because of coalition policy too? or you don't count the ones that aren't published in the local papers? Or perhaps you don't care once they cross an imaginary line?

What's your point.
People die every minute of every day.
Who cares how many died in Indonesia because they couldn't get a smugglers boat.
Perhaps a plane flight might have been quicker eh.

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Reply #22 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:47am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea?

It would be appalling if we didn't go to their rescue.

No, inform the Indonesians that a boat in their jurisdiction has sent a distress signal of course.
It's up to them.
We shouldn't have to go hunting all over the world for these country shoppers.

I didn't think that the navy went hunting for andrei.

Can you give us a link where they did

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Reply #23 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:51am

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:45am:

So the Indonesians are never to rescue the boats launched from their shores?
They have outsourced it all to us?

The Indonesians have far more defence assets than we do.
What they lack is the political will to fix the issue, despite the rhetoric from Bang Bang and KRudd.
Would they really have us believe they had no defence assets whatsoever on the southern part of Java.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14211 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: can anyone explain Reply #24 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:21pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:40am: What would you do cods? let them sink to the bottom of the deep blue sea? Quite a few people WOULD ... ( ... though they've learnt to mask that sentiment - very well)
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Reply #25 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:31pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 8:47am:

Who cares how many died in Indonesia because they couldn't get a smugglers boat.
Perhaps a plane flight might have been quicker eh.

The Australian government should allow asylum seekers to fly into Australia at one tenth of the cost of coming on people smugglers' boats, says billionaire Clive Palmer.

MR Palmer says the federal government's position on not issuing visas to asylum seekers fleeing Indonesia fuelled the people smuggling trade.

Mr Palmer said Australians collectively bore the responsibility of asylum seekers drowning at sea.

"We can eliminate the people smugglers. We can eliminate the problem. We can eliminate the drownings. We can treat people as human beings."

Mr Palmer said he did not approve of the offshore processing supported by both major parties.

"What sort of a nation are we if we don't follow our international responsibilities and allow people to come here safely?"
he said.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/let-asylum-seekers-fly-in-palmer/story-e6fr...

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Reply #26 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:43pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

The world shares a collective guilt and shame because we turned away Jewish refugees fleeing from Hitlers Holocaust...

'Ship of Shame' ~ but what you say is not entirely true.

At the time this ship was putting into various ports to find safe sanction for its Jewish passengers, none of those countries would have dreamed it possible that Herman Goering was soon to order the extermination of the Jews as the Final Solution.

(It wasn't Hitler, Himmler, or Eichmann who came up with the idea of extermination).

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A later great shame was how, just after the war, Jews were very badly treated on a refugee ship bringing them to Australia.

I can't remember the nationality of the ship's crew, but apparently they treated the Jews every bit as badly as did Hitler's thugs.

At every opportunity, man's inhumanity to man never ceases to amaze and astonish.

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