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Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned
Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:05am
 
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Military men say turning back boats can work

Retired Vice Admiral Chris Ritchie, who was Chief of Navy between 2002 and 2005, says turning back the boats can work - despite what so many journalists of the Left seem to think:


    A turn-back operation as it was practised in 2001 is a hazardous, risky task because of the nature of the people that you’re dealing with. They’re people who are intent on getting to Australia and you’re trying to turn them back from Australia.

    But nevertheless it’s a legitimate Navy operation. It’s something that Navy’s have done over centuries. And in that sense, if the government gives a direction to do it, then Navy people will do it and they’ll do it well.

The journalist wonders why just four were turned back:

    TONY EASTLEY: Why did the practice stop when it did?

    CHIRS RITCHIE: No more boats came.

    TONY EASTLEY: None at all?

    CHIRS RITCHIE: None at all. None at all.

    TONY EASTLEY: If that same model of returning boats was to be reinstituted today, do you think it would still work?

    CHIRS RITCHIE: If the conditions were replicated, it could still work.

Australia’s most recent defence attaché to Jakarta agrees and dismisses Kevin Rudd’s absurd warnings of Tony Abbott’s policy risking war:

    Retired Brigadier Gary Hogan, who finished his three-year posting in Jakarta last year, says it is not realistic to talk about risking conflict with our northern neighbour.

    “I think the strength of our strategic partnership would make that an unlikely scenario,” he said…

    “I do think it’s possible for us to push back boats or to intercept boats and to lead them back to their source,” he told ABC News 24.

    “We can’t do it on our own, we must do it with the Indonesians and I think we can do it with the Indonesians.

    “I think it’s possible for us to get that level of cooperation with the Indonesian navy, in fact we already have that level of cooperation with the navy in the eastern end of the Indonesian archipelago.”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/milit...


Chris Ritchie isn't a casual contributor to blogs; he's a retired vice admiral with hands-on experience. We didn't go to war over the issue of turning boats back previously so Indonesia can't now say such a policy is unacceptable.
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Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned
Reply #1 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:33am
 
The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.
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Reply #2 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:36am
 
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push back boats


How? - you use the navy boat to push against the bow of the wooden boat?

The wooden boat would crack in half.
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Reply #3 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:37am
 
Anyone who doesn't agree with the left is an idiot, even a retired Admiral with runs on the board.
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Reply #4 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:39am
 
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:33am:
The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.


Well that's wrong most get scuttled by our Navy and some even make it to mainland Australia...  hardly any we know of sink unaided.
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Reply #5 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:40am
 
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:33am:
The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.



He was running the Navey when they did it last time and what you are saying did not happen.


So nice synopsis


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Reply #6 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:42am
 
They started scuttling their boats, its the obvious tactic.
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Reply #7 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:39am:
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:33am:
The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.


Well that's wrong most get scuttled by our Navy and some even make it to mainland Australia...  hardly any we know of sink unaided.

youre battling with Greggary and Longweekend for the dubious honour of posting the most unfactual comments. Suggest you do at least a little research before posting errant nonsense. Many of these boats sink all by themselves with regularity.
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Reply #8 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:49am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:37am:
Anyone who doesn't agree with the left is an idiot, even a retired Admiral with runs on the board.

Im not in favour of allowing these economic refugees in here, however i am in favour of a sane and rational solution to the problem.
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Reply #9 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:50am
 
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:42am:
They started scuttling their boats, its the obvious tactic.



That's becasue we currently pick them up and bring them to Australia, so scuttling just speeds up the trip.

Turning them back or bring them back to their place of origin, would defeat anty attempt at scuttling.

No matter what, they would be returned to indon and the flow would again stop.


We are being treated like idiots, because we behave like idiots, time to make some changes.


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Reply #10 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:51am
 
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:49am:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:37am:
Anyone who doesn't agree with the left is an idiot, even a retired Admiral with runs on the board.

Im not in favour of allowing these economic refugees in here, however i am in favour of a sane and rational solution to the problem.


Well about time you made one then eh.
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Reply #11 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:51am
 
Many of these boats sink all by themselves with regularity.

So Rudd has not only caused harm to us & our economy with his boat chaos, obviously by your calculations he must be responsible for the deaths of countless thousands of illegals.
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Reply #12 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:53am
 
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:45am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:39am:
ian wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 10:33am:
The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.


Well that's wrong most get scuttled by our Navy and some even make it to mainland Australia...  hardly any we know of sink unaided.

youre battling with Greggary and Longweekend for the dubious honour of posting the most unfactual comments. Suggest you do at least a little research before posting errant nonsense. Many of these boats sink all by themselves with regularity.


happy for you to prove me wrong... 
go on...  i dare you to try.

You are spouting unsupported nonsense.
Empty rhetoric.
baseless nonsense.

Apologise or put up some proof...  you know...  put up or shut up.
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Reply #13 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 11:02am
 
you made the claim sunshine. Now support it.
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Reply #14 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 11:10am
 
Thanks to John Howard and GW Bush Iraq is about to explode into a civil war so if you're upset about the level of asylum seekers looking for a safe place to live just wait a few months.
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