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Question: Who wasted the most amount of money in government?

Howard on middle class welfare    
  1 (8.3%)
Howard on handouts to the middle class    
  0 (0.0%)
Howard trying to buy votes    
  0 (0.0%)
All of the above    
  11 (91.7%)




Total votes: 12
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Reply #30 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:11pm
 
fight like hell for the poor!
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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #31 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:34pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:11pm:
fight like hell for the poor!


The only ones who'll fight for the poor, ARE the poor.

No other ba$tard gives a stuff, they're too busy scamming the money that should be going to the poor for themselves.

Or actively encouraging poverty by driving wages & conditions down, and jobs overseas.

Either way, they're lining their pockets at the expense of the poor, and they won't let that change.

Aussies won't be the first to learn that the only way the poor will be heard is with the use of extreme violence, as
the French discovered in 1790, and the Russians in 1917.

No, I'm not advocating it (just to get in before the usual geese launch their attack), but I can see the potential for it.
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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #32 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:45pm
 
Well there is the most absurd post of the day out of the way at 8.45am....
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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #33 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:48pm
 

Maqqa wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 2:23pm:
I note all the austerity talk from lefties as if it's a bad thing

Facts are Austerity simply means spending less because the previous government had wasted sooooo much money


Redevelop the top end - Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions

Direct Action -  Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions

No Mining tax - Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions

Paid parental leave for the wealthy - Not funded in an acceptable manner for his party or owners.

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Sorry but who is it that wants to spend spend spend ??????
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Reply #34 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:02pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:45pm:
Well there is the most absurd post of the day out of the way at 8.45am....



No.

Not absurd at all.

Look around you, if you can get down from your ivory tower for long enough.

Want absurd?

Read some of Maqqa's drivel.
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Reply #35 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:08pm
 
Option 4 thanks. Grin
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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #36 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:26pm
 
Kat wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:34pm:
corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 5:11pm:
fight like hell for the poor!


The only ones who'll fight for the poor, ARE the poor.

No other ba$tard gives a stuff, they're too busy scamming the money that should be going to the poor for themselves.

Or actively encouraging poverty by driving wages & conditions down, and jobs overseas.

Either way, they're lining their pockets at the expense of the poor, and they won't let that change.

Aussies won't be the first to learn that the only way the poor will be heard is with the use of extreme violence, as
the French discovered in 1790, and the Russians in 1917.

No, I'm not advocating it (just to get in before the usual geese launch their attack), but I can see the potential for it.

This is a time of crises for capitalism and a time of great opportunity for the cause of social justice and democracy...seize the day, raise the social conscience of the world.  There are many good people who are in a much better financial situation than me who are fighting for social justice.  Social justice is the quest for human security and our future.  Its not just the cause the poor must fight, humanity must fight for it.
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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #37 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:29pm
 
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Redevelop the top end - Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions


Really....  it's called visionary booboo...  and yes it will cost a lot of money and take a lot of time but you have to start somewhere to decentralise and stop being fringe dwellers.

As for cost it will take federal, state and private funding to accomplish. Only a moron would try to paint it otherwise..

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Direct Action -  Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions


Really?  You got the costings eh?  Or just the ALP propaganda sheet.  Direct action is a more realistic approach and environmental approach to solving environmental problems than a tax or market scheme.  More will be done and it won't mean an additional carbon tax putting the price of everything up and creating a cost of living crisis.

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No Mining tax - Liberal scheme - unfunded @ many 100's of Billions


LOL, you are a goose...  the states had a mining tax arrangement already this adds to the cost of industry and takes funding from the states and puts it into the hands of the federal government just a big churn.

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Paid parental leave for the wealthy - Not funded in an acceptable manner for his party or owners.


More crap.  Funded by a levy on companies over a specific size.  Not funded by a tax on all Australians and more generous than the ALP policy.

Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #38 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:31pm
 
Try to get some balance and reality in your poll Skippy, more people might vote then instead of just rusted on morons.
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Reply #39 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:31pm:
Try to get some balance and reality in your poll Skippy, more people might vote then instead of just rusted on morons.

Yea, LOL, reality has never been your strong point.
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Reply #40 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:44pm
 
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More crap.  Funded by a levy on companies over a specific size.  Not funded by a tax on all Australians and more generous than the ALP policy.


More generous to the high paid.

What rubbish - tax on all Australians ???? How is it any different, as if the price won't be passed on to all Australians ????  Every argument that has been made against the fixed carbon price applies in exactly the same manner. The point is that the Libs will never be allowed to tax these businesses and in the end it will come from our taxes or just as likely it wont happen at all.
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Reply #41 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:44pm
 
One of the silliest pieces of money wasting  I believe was done by Clover Moore ( Sydney City mayor and Labor do-gooder). She spends of $100,000 on a rainbow painted on the road at Oxford St Sydney. All these gay people start lying on the road and getting pictures taken. So now it's a safety issue. She spends another $100,000 getting it removed. So that's $200,000 flushed down the toilet. It's these people that have caused ordinary Labor voters to turn away from this party.
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Reply #42 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:47pm
 
As for cost it will take federal, state and private funding to accomplish. Only a moron would try to paint it otherwise..

You think they will all chip in to move all the federal infrastructure to the outback with little prospect of a return, you really think that state governments will invest money in a project designed to cut their own throats?
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Reply #43 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:53pm
 
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Really?  You got the costings eh?  Or just the ALP propaganda sheet.  Direct action is a more realistic approach and environmental approach to solving environmental problems than a tax or market scheme.


All realistic projections say that it would cost about 10 X more to achieve the same as a fixed price.

See that Tony has gone cheapskate on his green army, spending billions on paying the untrained youth to do local projects and now on a very low wage. If you consider that you only get what you pay for I imagine they won't be getting a lot. This is one of the corner stones of direct action.

One of the others is to plant a few million trees, trees that can't be supplied or maintained?

Direct action is nothing but a joke.
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Reply #44 - Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:56pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 6th, 2013 at 6:53pm:
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Really?  You got the costings eh?  Or just the ALP propaganda sheet.  Direct action is a more realistic approach and environmental approach to solving environmental problems than a tax or market scheme.


All realistic projections say that it would cost about 10 X more to achieve the same as a fixed price.

See that Tony has gone cheapskate on his green army, spending billions on paying the untrained youth to do local projects and now on a very low wage. If you consider that you only get what you pay for I imagine they won't be getting a lot. This is one of the corner stones of direct action.

One of the others is to plane a few million trees, trees that can't be supplied or maintained?

Direct action is nothing but a joke.



And why is it, do you think, that the S.O.B wants to make WfD mandatory for the under-50s unemployed?

Who will, no doubt, do the bulk of the work, but receive none of the credit. Or any extra benefit/wage for doing so.

They're not called the Con-alition for nothing.
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