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Reply #45 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

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LOL, you are a goose... the states had a mining tax arrangement already this adds to the cost of industry and takes funding from the states and puts it into the hands of the federal government just a big churn.

Still money that the Feds won't have that they will need to make up some other way. Money off the bottom line, money which will not be a plus on the finance report and missing money which adds to the deficit and is ultimately reflected in Australias debt.

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #46 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:01pm

Big Dave wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

One of the silliest pieces of money wasting I believe was done by Clover Moore ( Sydney City mayor and Labor do-gooder). She spends of $100,000 on a rainbow painted on the road at Oxford St Sydney. All these gay people start lying on the road and getting pictures taken. So now it's a safety issue. She spends another $100,000 getting it removed. So that's $200,000 flushed down the toilet. It's these people that have caused ordinary Labor voters to turn away from this party.

Labor do gooder? Really? You got a link to her ever being a member

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #47 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:05pm

Kat wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:34pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

fight like hell for the poor!

The only ones who'll fight for the poor, ARE the poor.

No other ba$tard gives a stuff, they're too busy scamming the money that should be going to the poor for themselves.

Or actively encouraging poverty by driving wages & conditions down, and jobs overseas.

Either way, they're lining their pockets at the expense of the poor, and they won't let that change.

Aussies won't be the first to learn that the only way the poor will be heard is with the use of extreme violence, as
the French discovered in 1790, and the Russians in 1917.

No, I'm not advocating it (just to get in before the usual geese launch their attack), but I can see the potential for it.

If you don't like WfD, get yourself a real job and contribute to society instead of being a parasite.

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Dale Ftard

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #48 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Grendel Quote:

LOL, you are a goose... the states had a mining tax arrangement already this adds to the cost of industry and takes funding from the states and puts it into the hands of the federal government just a big churn.

Still money that the Feds won't have that they will need to make up some other way. Money off the bottom line, money which will not be a plus on the finance report and missing money which adds to the deficit and is ultimately reflected in Australias debt.

It costs way more in red tape and bureaucracy to have the mining tax than it collects - its a classic ALP balls up

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #49 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:16pm

Let me summarise this for the leftards about skippy's Expenditure poll

(1) Expenditure under Howard was $241B with a GDP of $1.2 Trillion

(2) Expenditures under Labor is currently sitting at around $365B with a $1.5 trillion GDP

Cumulatively Labor have spent $300B more than what they have in the last 5 years

What it gets to is this

If LIBs spend - then they call it waste without really looking at the details

But any expenditure by Labor then it's lauded as the greatest thing since slice bread

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #50 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:19pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:37pm:

Buzz if I thought you had the first clue about finance or economics the GLOBAL ECONOMY ...

Well, NEITHER of us could lay claim to be leading authorities in THAT area
I don't PRETEND to be - I'm a musician, artist and environment advocate
And YOU - despite an overblown sense of self importance - are but a simple accountant

For these reasons I trust the

UNANAMOUS verdict

of ...

the OECD
the IMF
Moody's
Standard & Poor's
Fitch's
Euromoney Institutional Investor PLC
... and even the unlikely former Prime Minister, John Howard

( ... to name but a few)

Only a FOOL could seriously deny these respected opinions in favour of the

LibNats, Murdoch Press, Alan Jones and Andrei Hicks

YOUR big problem - a product of your unyielding conservative, capitalist, right-wing bias - is that you are totally incapable of giving credit, where credit is due

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #51 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Grendel Quote:

LOL, you are a goose... the states had a mining tax arrangement already this adds to the cost of industry and takes funding from the states and puts it into the hands of the federal government just a big churn.

Still money that the Feds won't have that they will need to make up some other way. Money off the bottom line, money which will not be a plus on the finance report and missing money which adds to the deficit and is ultimately reflected in Australias debt.

It costs way more in red tape and bureaucracy to have the mining tax than it collects - its a classic ALP balls up

After the Mining companies supported by the Liberals spent millions on advertising against the tax and the then PM got turfed it was watered down to almost nothing. This clearly happened due to the pressure the mining companies were able to apply and fully supported by the Liberals.

It is also a super profits tax and if the big profits do not eventuate the tax income doesn't either. This means that in a depressed economy it isn't a big money spinner.

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #52 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

It is also a super profits tax and if the big profits do not eventuate the tax income doesn't either. This means that in a depressed economy it isn't a big money spinner.

You would be correct if the product of the miners were sold into a depressed economy as nobody is buying it

But the last time I looked - the ships are full steam ahead between Australia and China

Talking about a depressed economy - you guys supported Swannie's position that the economy is not depressed

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #53 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Grendel.
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More crap. Funded by a levy on companies over a specific size. Not funded by a tax on all Australians and more generous than the ALP policy.

More generous to the high paid.

What rubbish - tax on all Australians ???? How is it any different, as if the price won't be passed on to all Australians ???? Every argument that has been made against the fixed carbon price applies in exactly the same manner. The point is that the Libs will never be allowed to tax these businesses and in the end it will come from our taxes or just as likely it wont happen at all.

Oh dear more ignorance and bias on display by a labor rusted-on.
Puhlease do at least try to back your nonsense up with facts.

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #54 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

As for cost it will take federal, state and private funding to accomplish. Only a moron would try to paint it otherwise..

You think they will all chip in to move all the federal infrastructure to the outback with little prospect of a return, you really think that state governments will invest money in a project designed to cut their own throats?

Oh puhlease what level of moron are you aiming your crap at.

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #55 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:42pm

If the ALP folds like a pack of cards you should take it up with them. Just naming it a "super profits" tax evokes Orwelliancommunist nightmare in the population of normal people.

It was a complete balls up from start to finish by Rudd, Swan and Gillard who between them know nothing of business and less about mining. These clowns should be nowhere near economic policy levers. They are outright dangerous.

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Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend
Reply #56 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:49pm

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:34pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

fight like hell for the poor!

The only ones who'll fight for the poor, ARE the poor.

No other ba$tard gives a stuff, they're too busy scamming the money that should be going to the poor for themselves.

Or actively encouraging poverty by driving wages & conditions down, and jobs overseas.

Either way, they're lining their pockets at the expense of the poor, and they won't let that change.

Aussies won't be the first to learn that the only way the poor will be heard is with the use of extreme violence, as
the French discovered in 1790, and the Russians in 1917.

No, I'm not advocating it (just to get in before the usual geese launch their attack), but I can see the potential for it.

If you don't like WfD, get yourself a real job and contribute to society instead of being a parasite.

Asshole, I have a job, thanks very much. You have a hell of a lot of gall to call ME a parasite, pal.

You have NFI, all you fecktards can come up with is 'get a job' to anyone who disagrees with you.

Funny how the ones with all the invective are the ones who are ALWAYS on here during working hours. Hypocrites, much?

You're pathetic. Go and get a real brain.

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Dale Ftard Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136 Gender:	Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend Reply #57 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:51pm I call em as I see them, parasite. Would you prefer leech? Both apply to you.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend Reply #58 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:53pm Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:51pm: I call em as I see them, parasite. Would you prefer leech? Both apply to you. Looking in that mirror again? Hope you don't crack it, troll.
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Dale Ftard Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136 Gender:	Re: There's no money but lefties want to spend & spend Reply #59 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:57pm Having a job means I can afford to buy a new one. You should try it sometime
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