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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party Reply #15 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm You trying to say Christians don't have abortions? Greens - too stupid and immature to be allowed a say in anything.
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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #16 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:49pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:57am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

The Liberal Party of Australia lost any sense of democracy the day Tony Abbott slapped a ban on conscience voting - regarding matters clearly of conscience

When kids are walking 'round the hallway plagued by pain in their heart
A world so hateful some would rather die than be who they are
And a certificate on paper isn't gonna solve it all
But it's a damn good place to start

Whatever God you believe in
We come from the same one

what wank is this??? how about a concsience vote on abortion or carbon tax or other matters???

ABORTION ?

Well - OBVIOUSLY

BOTH being "matters of conscience" - and to the detriment or benefit of NO-ONE outside of a pregnant woman and a same sex couple

For too long influential but non-representative christianist politicians and christianist lobby groups have held control over other people's lives, way out of proportion to their small number

Climate change, carbon pricing and emission trading schemes affect ALL - from the national to international communities
Matters of science are best left to EXPERTS in the field

and to add to the world of buzzard's hypocrisy comes the belief that in some areas - climate change for example - our parliamentarians should even have the right to an opinion. So in summary it is a conscience vote for thins he likes and no conscience vote for those he doesn't. but the icing on the cake has got to be no right to a vote at ALL on climate change.

smell the hypocrisy!

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Reply #17 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:44pm

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

ABC's Insiders.

Julie Opposes Democratic Leadership

Julie Bishops said that the egyptian leader had loss support so she "didn't" criticise his removal.

So democratically elected leaders can be removed when there support collapses. Watch out Tony !

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

Shame Libs, Shame !

I would suggest to research what the democratically elected government of Egypt had planned for that country and it's long suffering people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not a tolerant entity, and would have taken Egypt back to the days of repression for western foreigners, women, Christians and homosexuals.
And of course the hate for Israel and Jews.

So now Liberals have degrees of democracy.

A democratically elected government is only a democratically elected government if it has a certain agenda according to the right?

Whats all this bull about Libs being the party of freedom.

Freedom from logic?

Freedom doesn't mean destroying a country and repressing it's people green.
Do you imagine the fruity gay left wingers over there are distressed over this slight hump in the road to democracy.
Would the Germans have been in the wrong had they removed Hitler after his 1933 election win?
Of course not.
The Nazis party, along with the Muslim Brotherhood are not fit to lead a country and both were using a nations democratic political system to achieve power, and achieve a stranglehold over it's people.

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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #18 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:57am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

The Liberal Party of Australia lost any sense of democracy the day Tony Abbott slapped a ban on conscience voting - regarding matters clearly of conscience

When kids are walking 'round the hallway plagued by pain in their heart
A world so hateful some would rather die than be who they are
And a certificate on paper isn't gonna solve it all
But it's a damn good place to start

Whatever God you believe in
We come from the same one

what wank is this??? how about a concsience vote on abortion or carbon tax or other matters??? nope, you just want conscience votes when you think you can win biut not when you think you might lose.

hypocrtie.

Would of been happy with a conscience vote on the right's illegal invasion in Afghanistans or Iraq.

Unfortunately Libs didn't want a debate since that would be too democratic for the supposed 'freedom party'.

why not have conscience votes ALL THE TIME??? the carbon tax would never have made it thru and probably not workchoices either.

In that case, lets end parties and have a house full of independently thinking people who vote to represent their electors and not the faceless men.

Could conservative politicians think independently?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party Reply #19 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:55pm Grendel wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm: You trying to say Christians don't have abortions? Greens - too stupid and immature to be allowed a say in anything. Avoiding the obvious mea culpa I see Greens...
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Reply #20 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:02pm

An idiot posting idiotic posts.........how the hell can the Labor government get rid of one PM because the back room boys say so, install another then do the same thing to her, then put the original one they smacking sacked back in to lead the country, and that is democracy.......you're all a bunch of wankers!

Oh look, the Labor conga line!

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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #21 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:03pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

ABC's Insiders.

Julie Opposes Democratic Leadership

Julie Bishops said that the egyptian leader had loss support so she "didn't" criticise his removal.

So democratically elected leaders can be removed when there support collapses. Watch out Tony !

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

Shame Libs, Shame !

I would suggest to research what the democratically elected government of Egypt had planned for that country and it's long suffering people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not a tolerant entity, and would have taken Egypt back to the days of repression for western foreigners, women, Christians and homosexuals.
And of course the hate for Israel and Jews.

So now Liberals have degrees of democracy.

A democratically elected government is only a democratically elected government if it has a certain agenda according to the right?

Whats all this bull about Libs being the party of freedom.

Freedom from logic?

Freedom doesn't mean destroying a country and repressing it's people green.
Do you imagine the fruity gay left wingers over there are distressed over this slight hump in the road to democracy.
Would the Germans have been in the wrong had they removed Hitler after his 1933 election win?
Of course not.
The Nazis party, along with the Muslim Brotherhood are not fit to lead a country and both were using a nations democratic political system to achieve power, and achieve a stranglehold over it's people.

Destroying a country is relative to one's view of destruction.

If we stop the fire then how is the phoenix born.

The Liberals are out to build a nanny state governed by nondemocratic means.

Conservative thinking liberal are a dangerous bunch.

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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #22 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:06pm

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Destroying a country is relative to one's view of destruction.

If we stop the fire then how is the phoenix born.

The Liberals are out to build a nanny state governed by nondemocratic means.

Conservative thinking liberal are a dangerous bunch.

The more you post the more certain one becomes of the invalidity of your thinking.

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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #23 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:16pm

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

ABC's Insiders.

Julie Opposes Democratic Leadership

Julie Bishops said that the egyptian leader had loss support so she "didn't" criticise his removal.

So democratically elected leaders can be removed when there support collapses. Watch out Tony !

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

Shame Libs, Shame !

I would suggest to research what the democratically elected government of Egypt had planned for that country and it's long suffering people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not a tolerant entity, and would have taken Egypt back to the days of repression for western foreigners, women, Christians and homosexuals.
And of course the hate for Israel and Jews.

So now Liberals have degrees of democracy.

A democratically elected government is only a democratically elected government if it has a certain agenda according to the right?

Whats all this bull about Libs being the party of freedom.

Freedom from logic?

Freedom doesn't mean destroying a country and repressing it's people green.
Do you imagine the fruity gay left wingers over there are distressed over this slight hump in the road to democracy.
Would the Germans have been in the wrong had they removed Hitler after his 1933 election win?
Of course not.
The Nazis party, along with the Muslim Brotherhood are not fit to lead a country and both were using a nations democratic political system to achieve power, and achieve a stranglehold over it's people.

Destroying a country is relative to one's view of destruction.

Is their a relative position with the subjugation of people now is there?
You cannot be serious.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

Julia Gillard
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party Reply #24 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:45pm Greens logic... what did you expect... reality?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party Reply #25 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 1:05pm Grendel wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:45pm: Greens logic... what did you expect... reality? the underlying pattern of Green thinking and policy is basic ILLOGIC.
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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #26 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 1:23pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

ABC's Insiders.

Julie Opposes Democratic Leadership

Julie Bishops said that the egyptian leader had loss support so she "didn't" criticise his removal.

So democratically elected leaders can be removed when there support collapses. Watch out Tony !

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

Shame Libs, Shame !

I would suggest to research what the democratically elected government of Egypt had planned for that country and it's long suffering people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not a tolerant entity, and would have taken Egypt back to the days of repression for western foreigners, women, Christians and homosexuals.
And of course the hate for Israel and Jews.

So now Liberals have degrees of democracy.

A democratically elected government is only a democratically elected government if it has a certain agenda according to the right?

Whats all this bull about Libs being the party of freedom.

Freedom from logic?

Freedom doesn't mean destroying a country and repressing it's people green.
Do you imagine the fruity gay left wingers over there are distressed over this slight hump in the road to democracy.
Would the Germans have been in the wrong had they removed Hitler after his 1933 election win?
Of course not.
The Nazis party, along with the Muslim Brotherhood are not fit to lead a country and both were using a nations democratic political system to achieve power, and achieve a stranglehold over it's people.

Destroying a country is relative to one's view of destruction.

Is their a relative position with the subjugation of people now is there?
You cannot be serious.

There are degrees of subjection according to the Liberal Party.

Some degrees are worthy of overthrowing a democratically elected government, some are not.
And as we know stands tend to drop on the right. One day they are supporting UN resolutions, next they are inciting mobs over refugees fleeing persecution and protected by UN resolutions.

Slippery slope now Libs have undermined their own concept of being freedom fighters. No longer are the libs the party of freedom.

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Re: The Undemocratic Liberal Party
Reply #27 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 1:42pm

____ wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

ABC's Insiders.

Julie Opposes Democratic Leadership

Julie Bishops said that the egyptian leader had loss support so she "didn't" criticise his removal.

So democratically elected leaders can be removed when there support collapses. Watch out Tony !

Liberals have now revealed themselves as anti democratic.

Shame Libs, Shame !

I would suggest to research what the democratically elected government of Egypt had planned for that country and it's long suffering people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is not a tolerant entity, and would have taken Egypt back to the days of repression for western foreigners, women, Christians and homosexuals.
And of course the hate for Israel and Jews.

So now Liberals have degrees of democracy.

A democratically elected government is only a democratically elected government if it has a certain agenda according to the right?

Whats all this bull about Libs being the party of freedom.

Freedom from logic?

Freedom doesn't mean destroying a country and repressing it's people green.
Do you imagine the fruity gay left wingers over there are distressed over this slight hump in the road to democracy.
Would the Germans have been in the wrong had they removed Hitler after his 1933 election win?
Of course not.
The Nazis party, along with the Muslim Brotherhood are not fit to lead a country and both were using a nations democratic political system to achieve power, and achieve a stranglehold over it's people.

Destroying a country is relative to one's view of destruction.

Is their a relative position with the subjugation of people now is there?
You cannot be serious.

There are degrees of subjection according to the Liberal Party.

Some degrees are worthy of overthrowing a democratically elected government, some are not.
And as we know stands tend to drop on the right. One day they are supporting UN resolutions, next they are inciting mobs over refugees fleeing persecution and protected by UN resolutions.

Slippery slope now Libs have undermined their own concept of being freedom fighters. No longer are the libs the party of freedom.

funny given that it is usually left-wing govt (like the Greens) that are the Undemocratic and totalitarian regimes.

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