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Jul 7th, 2013 at 9:51am
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/rudd-to-turn-back-boatp...

KEVIN Rudd has taken a tough line on border security, warning that a Labor government will turn the boats back and deter asylum-seekers, using the threat of detention and the nation's close ties with Indonesia.

In an interview with The Australian, the Opposition Leader advocated a layered approach to border security based on "effective laws, effective detention arrangements, effective deterrent posture vis-a-vis vessels approaching Australian waters".

This would mean close co-operation with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees and the Indonesian Government.

Mr Rudd said Labor would take asylum-seekers who had been rescued from leaky boats to Christmas Island, would turn back seaworthy vessels containing such people on the high seas, and would not lift the current intake of African refugees.

"You'd turn them back," he said of boats approaching Australia, emphasising that Labor believed in an "orderly immigration system" enforced by deterrence.

"You cannot have anything that is orderly if you allow people who do not have a lawful visa in this country to roam free," he said. "That's why you need a detention system. I know that's politically contentious, but one follows from the other.

"Deterrence is effective through the detention system but also your preparedness to take appropriate action as the vessels approach Australian waters on the high seas."

Mr Howard said yesterday he believed Mr Rudd "would change the country" if elected.

"When there's been a change of government, there's been a profound change in the direction of the country," he said. "Now if the country were going in the wrong direction, it would be understandable that people would want change, but if it's going in the right direction, why would you change something that's going in the right direction?"

But in his interview with The Australian, Mr Rudd rejected or played down a series of social policies and issues that Labor and the Greens had pursued for years during the Coalition Government.
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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:04am
 
Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.
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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:09am
 
any leftards who wants to defend Rudd's attack on Abbott - refer them back to this thread
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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:32am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 9:51am:
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Mr Howard said yesterday he believed Mr Rudd "would change the country" if elected.

"When there's been a change of government, there's been a profound change in the direction of the country," he said. "Now if the country were going in the wrong direction, it would be understandable that people would want change, but if it's going in the right direction, why would you change something that's going in the right direction?"




So Howard finally admits that he was taking the country in the wrong direction in 2007.
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:39am
 
John S wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:32am:
Maqqa wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 9:51am:
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Mr Howard said yesterday he believed Mr Rudd "would change the country" if elected.

"When there's been a change of government, there's been a profound change in the direction of the country," he said. "Now if the country were going in the wrong direction, it would be understandable that people would want change, but if it's going in the right direction, why would you change something that's going in the right direction?"




So Howard finally admits that he was taking the country in the wrong direction in 2007.


Howard said this whilst in his 12th year as PM.
He knew the writing was on the wall, and people just wanted a change.
The direction Howard took this country was one of prosperity, and he had the will and skill to break the business model of the people smugglers.
Definitely not the wrong direction.
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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:56am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:09am:
any leftards who wants to defend Rudd's attack on Abbott - refer them back to this thread



Why?

It's as pointless and meaningless as most of the other threads started by the rusted-on far right.
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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:59am
 
According to the polls we are in for another hung parliament unless Mr Rudd can grab another 1-2% and policies like being hard on illegals could just do that.
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Reply #7 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:59am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:39am:
Howard said this whilst in his 12th year as PM.
He knew the writing was on the wall, and people just wanted a change.
The direction Howard took this country was one of prosperity, and he had the will and skill to break the business model of the people smugglers.
Definitely not the wrong direction.

Obviously his tactic was to spend every last cent the country had on middle class welfare and to increase our tax burden further by dramatically increasing legal middle eastern migration.
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Reply #8 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:11am
 
first of all kev would have to admit he did do something wrong.. he made a blunder he single handedly helped the people smugglers to get back into action..


can anyone see this person doing that????

not on your life..

arrogance doesnt go out of the door easily..
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Reply #9 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:14am
 
cods wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:11am:
first of all kev would have to admit he did do something wrong.. he made a blunder he single handedly helped the people smugglers to get back into action..


can anyone see this person doing that????

not on your life..

arrogance doesnt go out of the door easily..


Mr Kevin Rudd has already admitted to making mistakes in regard to the boat people issue as well as the rushed roll out of insulation installation.
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Reply #10 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:16am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:04am:
Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.



Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.
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Reply #12 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:18am
 
adelcrow wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:59am:
According to the polls we are in for another hung parliament unless Mr Rudd can grab another 1-2% and policies like being hard on illegals could just do that.

Another hung parliament means another Labor government, given the likes of Katter, Wilkie and the Greens would prefer Labor over phoney Tony. Maybe the indies could pull a black Jack Mcewan and demand Turnbull be leader of the Libs for their support, too funny. Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #13 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:20am
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:17am:
adelcrow wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 10:59am:
According to the polls we are in for another hung parliament unless Mr Rudd can grab another 1-2% and policies like being hard on illegals could just do that.

Another hung parliament means another Labor government, given the likes of Katter, Wilkie and the Greens would prefer Labor over phoney Tony. Maybe the indies could pull a black Jack Mcquen and demand Turnbull be leader of the Libs for their support, too funny. Grin Cheesy Grin


Im sure Mr Kevin Rudd will also be using the term illegals to make a point of how the mix of people has changed since he was dumped and now he is back he will "stop the boats"
Only 1-2% people and its goodbye Mr Tony Abbott MHR
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Reply #14 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:23am
 
Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.
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