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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #15 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:26am

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

It all depends on how Kevin and Tony play the public over the next few months but Kevin looks like he has come up with a game plan while he was sitting on the back bench...but can Kevin stick with it and will his plan stand the test of the election campaign

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #16 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:30am

As if on cue. Rudd is taking full control of this issue. I think we will saee a substantial poll bounce for the ALP next week.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379
Labor unveils hard line on asylum seekers who destroy passports

ASYLUM seekers who fly to Indonesia and dump their passports and identity papers before boarding people-smuggling boats to Australia will have their applications "sent to the back of the queue".
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will also unveil before the election a tougher test for refugee applications, and there are hopes of expanding the fly-home deportation policy for bogus asylum seekers that exists with Sri Lanka to new countries, including Indonesia.

Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379#ixzz2YJqNaEK6

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #17 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:44am

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

As if on cue. Rudd is taking full control of this issue. I think we will saee a substantial poll bounce for the ALP next week.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379
Labor unveils hard line on asylum seekers who destroy passports

ASYLUM seekers who fly to Indonesia and dump their passports and identity papers before boarding people-smuggling boats to Australia will have their applications "sent to the back of the queue".
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will also unveil before the election a tougher test for refugee applications, and there are hopes of expanding the fly-home deportation policy for bogus asylum seekers that exists with Sri Lanka to new countries, including Indonesia.

Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379#ixzz2YJqNaEK6

Uh huh and we've seen what happens when he takes charge haven't we... everything turns to shyte. Grin

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #18 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:03pm Your political commentary is sh!te.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #19 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?
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Reply #20 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

except that it WAS safe (no injuries or deaths in doing so a dozen times previously). WAS practical (since it worked) and LEGAL since it was in international waters.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #21 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:13pm Rudd will say whatever he thinks people want him to say and promise everything people want to hear and when elected will do exactly what he wants to do - which is very little and then be replaced by Bill Shorten.
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Reply #22 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

except that it WAS safe (no injuries or deaths in doing so a dozen times previously). WAS practical (since it worked) and LEGAL since it was in international waters.

are you a national security advisor? Do you know something we don't when it comes to nationa secuiryt? Why won't Tony take the security briefings Rudd has offered?

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #23 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

As if on cue. Rudd is taking full control of this issue. I think we will saee a substantial poll bounce for the ALP next week.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379
Labor unveils hard line on asylum seekers who destroy passports

ASYLUM seekers who fly to Indonesia and dump their passports and identity papers before boarding people-smuggling boats to Australia will have their applications "sent to the back of the queue".
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will also unveil before the election a tougher test for refugee applications, and there are hopes of expanding the fly-home deportation policy for bogus asylum seekers that exists with Sri Lanka to new countries, including Indonesia.

Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/labor-unveils-hard-line-on-asylum-seekers-who-destroy-passports/story-fnii5s3x-1226675352379#ixzz2YJqNaEK6

Will certainly be interested to hear more details.........but as my great concern has mostly been the number of fraudulent asylum claims that circumvent the present assessment regime, so far Rudd gets my tick of approval.....or at least poised for my tick of approval

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #24 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:18pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:13pm: Rudd will say whatever he thinks people want him to say and promise everything people want to hear and when elected will do exactly what he wants to do - which is very little and then be replaced by Bill Shorten. You're right..he does have that in common with Mr Abbott
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #25 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Image.

Abbott knows that women vote according to their romantic fantasies.

Bob Hawke got in because women thought he was a good root. Same with Rudd.

Abbott knows that when it comes time for Australia's women to put down their Mills-and-Boon to attend the voting booths ~ it will be fantasies of an illicit affair with Kevin Rudd that will be uppermost in their minds.

Abbott knows that giving Rudd more time in front of the cameras would only work against him with the women of Australia.

Cool

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #26 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:31pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

except that it WAS safe (no injuries or deaths in doing so a dozen times previously). WAS practical (since it worked) and LEGAL since it was in international waters.

are you a national security advisor? Do you know something we don't when it comes to nationa secuiryt? Why won't Tony take the security briefings Rudd has offered?

do you wish to dispute any of those facts? no one was injured. it is obviously practical since it was done at least a dozen times and legality was supported by a Vice Admiral of the Navy - hardly a nobody. plus, most sovereign nations will intercept vessels heading for their waters already. nothing new there.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #27 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:32pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Image.

Abbott knows that women vote according to their romantic fantasies.

Bob Hawke got in because women thought he was a good root. Same with Rudd.

Abbott knows that when it comes time for Australia's women to put down their Mills-and-Boon to attend the voting booths ~ it will be fantasies of an illicit affair with Kevin Rudd that will be uppermost in their minds.

Abbott knows that giving Rudd more time in front of the cameras would only work against him with the women of Australia.

Cool

Im hoping to see more of Mr Abbott in spandex bike gear and speedos as the election day draws closer.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #29 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:39pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

except that it WAS safe (no injuries or deaths in doing so a dozen times previously). WAS practical (since it worked) and LEGAL since it was in international waters.

are you a national security advisor? Do you know something we don't when it comes to nationa secuiryt? Why won't Tony take the security briefings Rudd has offered?

do you wish to dispute any of those facts? no one was injured. it is obviously practical since it was done at least a dozen times and legality was supported by a Vice Admiral of the Navy - hardly a nobody. plus, most sovereign nations will intercept vessels heading for their waters already. nothing new there.

Again, did you receive the same national secutiry briefs rudd did? Why won't Tony accept the offer to hear what they had to say?

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