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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #30 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:43pm

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

So we'll have you and your ilk to blame for more of the same and our country ruined beyond repair.

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Reply #32 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:28pm

Do you believe that: Rudd to turn back boats? Do you believe it when Rudd says that people who destroy passports or papers or not have explanation will go to the back of the queue?

I don't believe that because every single thing that Rudd has attempted when acting as a Prime Minister has ended up as a Dog's Breakfast...and that is what this will be a Great Bloody Useless Dog's breakfast.

The one certainly you can take out of it is this. It will cost the Australian Taxpayer a bomb, and that money will be borrowed from China, just put it on the tab in true Rudd manner.

That bloke is as useless as tits on a tennis ball.

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Reply #33 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:39pm

So where is the "queue" that Krudd is going to send them to the back of?

The facts are if they have no documents or identification and get to our shores and can't be identified through ethnic profiling, they will not be repatriated because no other country is going to take them if the cannot be identified as one of their citizens. What country would take them?

AU Immigration: Hello Iran? Mamoud here says he is one of yours. We think he's dodgy. Can you look out for him on the 7.30pm Emirates to Tehran?

Iran: برو فاک خودتان خوک دلار استرالیا. خداوند خواهید دید که شما را در جهنم بسوزاند Click

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #34 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?
How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?
How was it not legal under international law when Howard stopped the boats and only the left whined about it and practically no one else?
Why is it not practical when steps are taken that work to stop the boats and reduce costs and the incarceration of immigrants whom arrive via illegal means?
Why do other countries stop and turn back boats every day and it's legal for them. eg: US, Sri Lanka, Israel.
Why does the left think that it's the governments business to support criminal people smugglers?

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #35 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:51pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Rudd is not competent in giving national security briefings.
Rudd is not competent, he is a dunderclumper.
Period.
Given that the department of Immigration has allowed the release into the community of unidentified country shoppers under the watchful eye of Labor, Rudd is the last person on the planet to be conducting national security briefings.
Labor has done far more damage to our national security in five short years than what has occurred in the past seventy years.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #36 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:53pm

bambu wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:43pm:

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

So we'll have you and your ilk to blame for more of the same and our country ruined beyond repair.

Howard started the ruination.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #37 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

bambu wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:43pm:

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

So we'll have you and your ilk to blame for more of the same and our country ruined beyond repair.

Howard started the ruination.

Really Ian and I suppose you will have a logical reasoned argument to back that inanity up?
Or not Grin

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #38 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:09pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?
How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?
How was it not legal under international law when Howard stopped the boats and only the left whined about it and practically no one else?
Why is it not practical when steps are taken that work to stop the boats and reduce costs and the incarceration of immigrants whom arrive via illegal means?
Why do other countries stop and turn back boats every day and it's legal for them. eg: US, Sri Lanka, Israel.
Why does the left think that it's the governments business to support criminal people smugglers?

How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?

A number drowned when the last boat turned back sunk a few hundred meters from shore, this is the reason that Howard stopped sending them back.

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How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?

Boats arrived each and every year.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #39 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:35pm There is not ONE leftard here even acknowledged Rudd agreed with the turn the boats back policy Not one leftard acknowledge that this was and is Rudd's policy He has never revoked this position Rudd supports turning back the boats
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #40 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:49pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?
How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?
How was it not legal under international law when Howard stopped the boats and only the left whined about it and practically no one else?
Why is it not practical when steps are taken that work to stop the boats and reduce costs and the incarceration of immigrants whom arrive via illegal means?
Why do other countries stop and turn back boats every day and it's legal for them. eg: US, Sri Lanka, Israel.
Why does the left think that it's the governments business to support criminal people smugglers?

How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?

A number drowned when the last boat turned back sunk a few hundred meters from shore, this is the reason that Howard stopped sending them back.

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How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?

Boats arrived each and every year.

Like one a year for three years, and none for another year.
Can't get much better than that really.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #41 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

[quote author=chicken_lipsforme link=1373154694/1#1 date=1373155461]Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?
How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?
How was it not legal under international law when Howard stopped the boats and only the left whined about it and practically no one else?
Why is it not practical when steps are taken that work to stop the boats and reduce costs and the incarceration of immigrants whom arrive via illegal means?
Why do other countries stop and turn back boats every day and it's legal for them. eg: US, Sri Lanka, Israel.
Why does the left think that it's the governments business to support criminal people smugglers?

How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?

A number drowned when the last boat turned back sunk a few hundred meters from shore, this is the reason that Howard stopped sending them back.

[quote]

Wrong.
The turn back the boats policy was not about turning back sinking boats a few hundred meters off shore, and never was.
Howard was the last person to allow foreigners and criminals to dictate or to pressure our border protection policy.
Sewing of lips didn't work.
Starvation didn't work.
Burning detention centres didn't work.
And neither did sabotaging of the boats.
There has been more people lost at sea under Labor's watch than in the twelve years under John Howard.
The Coalitions policy is safer.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

Julia Gillard
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #42 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:39pm Abbott's Navy will simply point the Fraud-Boats in the direction of the Indonesian coast, and after locking the steering wheel to position the rudder to take the Fraud-People back from whence they came, Abbott's Navy will then retire to Christmas Island for a well earned rest.
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #43 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:46pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

[quote author=Jim_Puddle-Duck link=1373154694/10#10 date=1373159781][quote author=chicken_lipsforme link=1373154694/1#1 date=1373155461]Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

How was it not safe when Howard stopped the boats and none were on the high seas drowning?
How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?
How was it not legal under international law when Howard stopped the boats and only the left whined about it and practically no one else?
Why is it not practical when steps are taken that work to stop the boats and reduce costs and the incarceration of immigrants whom arrive via illegal means?
Why do other countries stop and turn back boats every day and it's legal for them. eg: US, Sri Lanka, Israel.
Why does the left think that it's the governments business to support criminal people smugglers?

How many drowned on the six boats returned to Indonesia waters when Howard was PM prior to the boats stopping?

A number drowned when the last boat turned back sunk a few hundred meters from shore, this is the reason that Howard stopped sending them back.

Quote:

Wrong.
The turn back the boats policy was not about turning back sinking boats a few hundred meters off shore, and never was.
Howard was the last person to allow foreigners and criminals to dictate or to pressure our border protection policy.
Sewing of lips didn't work.
Starvation didn't work.
Burning detention centres didn't work.
And neither did sabotaging of the boats.
There has been more people lost at sea under Labor's watch than in the twelve years under John Howard.
The Coalitions policy is safer.

Rudd supported turning back boats as well

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Dale Ftard Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136 Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #44 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 4:48pm If Rudd does it, it will be teh bestest policy evar and their will be silence from the leftards
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