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Reply #45 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 5:29pm

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

the alp failed under rudd. the failed under gillard.
Why would you want them back under rudd again .

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Reply #46 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

ian wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

Rudd is a brilliant tactician and enjoys a much higher level of personal support than Abbot. Labor will get that 2 percent, if not more. I personally would have voted Abbot over Gillard but now Rudds back will vote for the ALP, I know many swinging voters like me will now do the same.

the alp failed under rudd. the failed under gillard.
Why would you want them back under rudd again .

The unwashed majority don't want Abbott the Thug.

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Reply #48 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 5:50pm

How is it that after all this time Australia doesn't have a spy satellite positioned in geosynchronous orbit over the southern coast of Indonesia ready to detect Fraud-Boats heading our way?

And how is it we don't have Indonesians on the Australian payroll whose job it is to monitor the southern coast for Fraud-Boat preparation activity?

I can't stand a bar of Foreign Minister Bob Carr, but he DID surprise me the other day when he said, during a TV interview, that "100% of the current crop of asylum-seekers this year have been nothing more than economic migrants".

That raised my eye-brows. It drew howls of protest and condemnation from the Left. And it even brought out that dinosaur of the Far Left ~ Malcolm Fraser ~ to raise his ugly head to say Carr had been speaking 'nonsense'.

Bob Carr himself is a Lefty who once relied very heavily on the NSW Greens vote to keep him in office as NSW premier ~ a job he did with criminal incompetence.

And now to hear him dismiss all these asylum-seekers as Mickey Mouse clubbers is quite a change of attitude in him.

Maybe he's finally saying what he knows to be true because Gillard is gone and Labor will be out on its arse for at least the next 3 elections.

But I think Rudd can still win it.

Just as Labor swapped Gillard for Rudd to win the next election ~~ so too should the Libs swap Abbott for Turnbull for the same reason.

If Abbott takes the Libs to the election, I won't be betting any of my money. It'll be a very close call.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #49 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #50 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm: Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin I certainly hope he does
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #51 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:17pm Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm: Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin I certainly hope he does You dont need to hope coz its already happening
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Reply #52 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:45pm

Going to be interesting. He would be across all sorts of surveys by now, that if he ignored before, he would be in no doubt about at all now, boat people are absolutely toxic electorally. And not as the luvvies would expect, from rusted on red necks, biggest negative hits are from refugees and other first and second generation immigrants.

Seems to me, that the luvvies are arguing, demonising and accusing of racism the wrong people. Or at best, a more palatable target, bit hard to berate a settled refugee by accusing them of racism. Grin

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"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

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Reply #53 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin Cheesy

I certainly hope he does

Maqqa, your interest in politics comes down to the spelling of two names: Labor and Liberal.

Anything else is far too.complicated.

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Reply #54 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:38pm

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Bob Carr himself is a Lefty

Bob Carr could only be considered to be a genuine "lefty" on some sort of Bizarro World.

He hasn't changed his views at all. He's probably much closer in ideology to John Howard than Rudd or especially Gillard. Just because he was NSW Labor doesn't mean he was ever a "lefty" while NSW Premier.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #55 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:45pm Bob Carr has had homosexual affairs with the full knowledge of his Malaysian wife. The last one was with a male US Author. This man is suitable for Government?
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #56 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:54pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin

No the strategy of using Abbott as leader is designed to nullify that possibility, A leader not capable of producing a policy is safe from policy theft. Maybe a few rather serious problems down the line but they can be sorted after the election.

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Reply #57 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin Cheesy

I certainly hope he does

Maqqa, your interest in politics comes down to the spelling of two names: Labor and Liberal.

Anything else is far too.complicated.

My interest comes down to oratory tactics - which is too high level for you to understand

Do you even understand the Labor tactic which is the underlining topic of this thread?

More than likely not

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #58 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm Maqqa: the loon's loon.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #59 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:07pm Life_goes_on wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:05pm: Maqqa: the loon's loon. takes on to know one
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