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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #60 - Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:09pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin Cheesy

I certainly hope he does

You dont need to hope coz its already happening Grin

The ALP can't implement their own policies without fking them up. If you champion them pinching the LIbs ideas you should vote for the coalition, but then again we don't need dikheads infecting our side of politics with fked up lefty ideals

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Reply #61 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 8:25am

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Kevin is going to force Tony further to the right by stealing his policies..that should be worth at least an extra 2% of the vote to Kevin Cheesy

I certainly hope he does

You dont need to hope coz its already happening Grin

The ALP can't implement their own policies without fking them up. If you champion them pinching the LIbs ideas you should vote for the coalition, but then again we don't need dikheads infecting our side of politics with fked up lefty ideals

And that is still on every ones mind.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #62 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 9:26am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Rudd is not competent in giving national security briefings.
Rudd is not competent, he is a dunderclumper.
Period.
Given that the department of Immigration has allowed the release into the community of unidentified country shoppers under the watchful eye of Labor, Rudd is the last person on the planet to be conducting national security briefings.
Labor has done far more damage to our national security in five short years than what has occurred in the past seventy years.

Rudd isn't giving the national security briefing. He is offering for A national security briefing to be provided to Tony. By people who are in charge of national security. You know, experts.

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #63 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 10:16am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Rudd is not competent in giving national security briefings.
Rudd is not competent, he is a dunderclumper.
Period.
Given that the department of Immigration has allowed the release into the community of unidentified country shoppers under the watchful eye of Labor, Rudd is the last person on the planet to be conducting national security briefings.
Labor has done far more damage to our national security in five short years than what has occurred in the past seventy years.

Rudd isn't giving the national security briefing. He is offering for A national security briefing to be provided to Tony. By people who are in charge of national security. You know, experts.

rudd made the problem.
he invited them over here agaisnt ALL advice.
any 'briefing' he offers will say exactly what he wants it to say.

it's his problem, I'ld refuse any hand in it either.

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Reply #64 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

why wont tony have the national ssecurity briefings rudd has offered?

Rudd is not competent in giving national security briefings.
Rudd is not competent, he is a dunderclumper.
Period.
Given that the department of Immigration has allowed the release into the community of unidentified country shoppers under the watchful eye of Labor, Rudd is the last person on the planet to be conducting national security briefings.
Labor has done far more damage to our national security in five short years than what has occurred in the past seventy years.

Rudd isn't giving the national security briefing. He is offering for A national security briefing to be provided to Tony. By people who are in charge of national security. You know, experts.

Tony doesn't require anything from KRudd, except firstly, to know the date of the election and secondly, For KRudd to keep doing what KRudd has always done best.
After the election though, Tony will have his national security brief daily.

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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58663 Here Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #65 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 7:59pm Abbott doesn't want to work with facts - he prefers to make them up himself.
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Reply #66 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Abbott doesn't want to work with facts - he prefers to make them up himself.

Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know the fact that a few hundred more country shoppers have arrived since last week on top of the 45,000 since Labor took office.
Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know Labor has been grossly incompetent on this issue.

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"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #67 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 8:35pm Asylum, human security and protection is a human right under Australian and international law. Any person has the legal right to seek refuge from injustice wherever it may be found...Australia is a sanctuary for victims not their Prison...
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #68 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 9:04pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Abbott doesn't want to work with facts - he prefers to make them up himself.

Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know the fact that a few hundred more country shoppers have arrived since last week on top of the 45,000 since Labor took office.
Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know Labor has been grossly incompetent on this issue.

so you know what is in the security briefing chickenlips? wow, I'm impressed ... and all this time I thought you just made 'facts' up to suit your argument.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #69 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:02pm Still no lefty is prepared to admit Rudd support turning back the boats No courage from the left!!!
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Reply #70 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:05pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Abbott doesn't want to work with facts - he prefers to make them up himself.

Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know the fact that a few hundred more country shoppers have arrived since last week on top of the 45,000 since Labor took office.
Abbott doesn't need a security briefing to know Labor has been grossly incompetent on this issue.

But maybe he does to stop making silly commitments that he can't keep.

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Dnarever Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58663 Here Gender:	Re: Rudd to turn back boats Reply #71 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:07pm Maqqa wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:02pm: Still no lefty is prepared to admit Rudd support turning back the boats No courage from the left!!! no lefty is prepared to admit Rudd support turning back the boats With your comprehension skills how would you know?
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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #72 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:17pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:02pm:

Still no lefty is prepared to admit Rudd support turning back the boats

No courage from the left!!!

no lefty is prepared to admit Rudd support turning back the boats

With your comprehension skills how would you know?

I know you are all cowards

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Re: Rudd to turn back boats
Reply #73 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

Rudd mistakenly did state this to the world in 2007, however Bob Brown was yet to give KRudd the actual policy he was to follow.
Bob did clear this up with KRudd.

Or you could tell the truth that after the election he found that it was not safe, practical or legal under international law.

except that it WAS safe (no injuries or deaths in doing so a dozen times previously). WAS practical (since it worked) and LEGAL since it was in international waters.

are you a national security advisor? Do you know something we don't when it comes to nationa secuiryt? Why won't Tony take the security briefings Rudd has offered?

do you wish to dispute any of those facts? no one was injured. it is obviously practical since it was done at least a dozen times and legality was supported by a Vice Admiral of the Navy - hardly a nobody. plus, most sovereign nations will intercept vessels heading for their waters already. nothing new there.

no one was injured

People drowned.

LEGAL since it was in international waters

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But there have been questions in recent weeks about whether the Australian Navy should tow a boat through international waters.

Former defence chief Chris Barrie said the approach “might become an act of piracy” and the UN High Commissioner for Refugees said it could breach international obligations.

in doing so a dozen times previously

It was done a lot less than a dozen times.

It looks like you got nothing right ???

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Reply #74 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 11:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

Rudd will say whatever he thinks people want him to say and promise everything people want to hear and when elected will do exactly what he wants to do - which is very little and then be replaced by Bill Shorten.

Rudd will say whatever he thinks people want him to say and promise everything people want to hear

He is going to me too Tony ???

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