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Could you live on $31 a day?
Jul 8^th, 2013 at 3:39pm

According to The Australian, and The Oz is never wrong, that's what Somali asylum seekers, Laila Mahmud Farax and Ramla Abdulaahi Elmid, have to survive on.

They receive 89% of the Newstart allowance, the payment most Australians agree is pathetically low.

They live in a tiny apartment temporarily provided by the Immigration Dept, but in two weeks must move out and into the cutthroat Sydney private rental market.

The cheapest accommodation they have been able to find is a $250 a week bedsit.

Ms Elmid said she wanted to support herself if she could find a job.

"I was expecting to get a better life in Australia, better than that we had in Somalia. We wanted to get peace and to make a new life."

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #1 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:03pm How much have they contributed in to pay for this hand out?
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #2 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:12pm First up they need to get the hell out of sydney; it is not a place for poor people who want to get ahead
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #3 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:14pm In my summer jobs in the university summer breaks I earned $5 per hour. I managed.
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Alinta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1470 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:27pm BigOl64 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:12pm: First up they need to get the hell out of sydney; it is not a place for poor people who want to get ahead Yep, agree. I concede $31 p/day is not much money but there's two of them to share expenses until they can find work.
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Mnemonic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1530 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #5 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:40pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:14pm: In my summer jobs in the university summer breaks I earned $5 per hour. I managed. Did you get AUSTUDY? You were probably still living with your parents or sharing a room, apartment or house with a room-mate/housemate/apartment-mate.
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Re: Could you live on $31 a day?
Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:44pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

According to The Australian, and The Oz is never wrong, that's what Somali asylum seekers, Laila Mahmud Farax and Ramla Abdulaahi Elmid, have to survive on.

They receive 89% of the Newstart allowance, the payment most Australians agree is pathetically low.

They live in a tiny apartment temporarily provided by the Immigration Dept, but in two weeks must move out and into the cutthroat Sydney private rental market.

The cheapest accommodation they have been able to find is a $250 a week bedsit.

Ms Elmid said she wanted to support herself if she could find a job.

"I was expecting to get a better life in Australia, better than that we had in Somalia. We wanted to get peace and to make a new life."

Hear, hear. For too long stories have been floating around about how refugees get $1000 a week or whatever, when the truth is not so.

Well at least they have relative peace - but this is an economically depressed nation and has been in GENUINE recession since the Keating days - sorry to enlighten you - with high endemic and hidden un- and under-employment - including a rising number going onto pensions.

If our Fearless Leaders continue to 'create' jobs at the current rate - we will all be living of Gina's taxes soon - which would give us about 10c a week each...

Remember the Goanna? Argument with the Tax Man (sorry - Tax PERSON since the advent of 40% more workers) over paying tax on a measly $25k a year while living the billionaire life... well - they made the rules for the rich, didn't they?

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Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:52pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

How much have they contributed in to pay for this hand out?

They offered us the courtesy and respect of asking us to help them when they were in dire straits. I'd say that qualifies them as contributors to this once-great country where people took care of one another.

When I grew up in the fifties and sixties, every adult had been through a hard life, and as a result they had more time and care to give to others and had far greater respect than the Philistines who run the show these days from their education paper moral shacks built on sand and with glass walls.

But I suppose that could be because I'm far more Irish/Scottish than Sassenach - we Gaels/Celts do things differently, as I've said many times. No wonder we rule the known world.....

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Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:14pm:

In my summer jobs in the university summer breaks I earned $5 per hour.
I managed.

Oh, aye - and what slave labour country governed by no rules and in what year was that? You were robbed or are still living in the Ancient Times when a dollar was worth a dollar and not twenty cents.

Slave labour is banned, BTW..... that's why pensioners don't pack up their meagre homes and go do ditch digging for flood repair to 'earn' their pension as some farken redneck suggested they do.. same with the unemployed - you want 'em to work - you PAY 'em the right money! Not negotiable.

I may re-consider my stance as a Benevolent Dictator and send some to the wall.....

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Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:30pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

According to The Australian, and The Oz is never wrong, that's what Somali asylum seekers, Laila Mahmud Farax and Ramla Abdulaahi Elmid, have to survive on.

They receive 89% of the Newstart allowance, the payment most Australians agree is pathetically low.

They live in a tiny apartment temporarily provided by the Immigration Dept, but in two weeks must move out and into the cutthroat Sydney private rental market.

The cheapest accommodation they have been able to find is a $250 a week bedsit.

Ms Elmid said she wanted to support herself if she could find a job.

"I was expecting to get a better life in Australia, better than that we had in Somalia. We wanted to get peace and to make a new life."

Are you still a long term kiwi welfare bludger Peter?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #10 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:31pm It was a summer job at a water park in South Carolina grappler. Best months of my life to be honest. Girls, booze and sun.
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Re: Could you live on $31 a day?
Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

How much have they contributed in to pay for this hand out?

They offered us the courtesy and respect of asking us to help them when they were in dire straits. I'd say that qualifies them as contributors to this once-great country where people took care of one another.

When I grew up in the fifties and sixties, every adult had been through a hard life, and as a result they had more time and care to give to others and had far greater respect than the Philistines who run the show these days from their education paper moral shacks built on sand and with glass walls.

But I suppose that could be because I'm far more Irish/Scottish than Sassenach - we Gaels/Celts do things differently, as I've said many times. No wonder we rule the known world.....

Rule the modern world?
Scotland is still ruled by the English.
The Irish still have their island divided and part of it ruled by London.

The Celts? Fking rabble. Always have been.

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Re: Could you live on $31 a day?
Reply #12 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:57pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

It was a summer job at a water park in South Carolina grappler.

Best months of my life to be honest.

Girls, booze and sun.

South Carolina? That's not far from Roanoke Island where migrants from Bideford North Devon disappeared under mysterious circumstances. Some of those were probably related to me.

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Reply #13 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

How much have they contributed in to pay for this hand out?

They offered us the courtesy and respect of asking us to help them when they were in dire straits. I'd say that qualifies them as contributors to this once-great country where people took care of one another.

When I grew up in the fifties and sixties, every adult had been through a hard life, and as a result they had more time and care to give to others and had far greater respect than the Philistines who run the show these days from their education paper moral shacks built on sand and with glass walls.

But I suppose that could be because I'm far more Irish/Scottish than Sassenach - we Gaels/Celts do things differently, as I've said many times. No wonder we rule the known world.....

Rule the modern world?
Scotland is still ruled by the English.
The Irish still have their island divided and part of it ruled by London.

The Celts? Fking rabble. Always have been.

Ha ha - the British Lions had to surrender to Ireland and include them... just a sign of the times and Scotland is still a separate kingdom. My ancestors come partly from Berwick - an independent county neither part of England nor Scotland... the other from the isle of Lewis - hardly ruled by the English...

Hmm - water park you say.. fun - but still a rip-off.

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Could you live on $31 a day? Reply #14 - Jul 8^th, 2013 at 6:49pm On Landline they reckon the reffos would rather hang out on the dole in Sydney than work out in the country for a wage, the reffos came here to retire not f#ckin well work, the countries they came from are all basket case sh#tholes for a reason you know and that reason is them.
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