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Reply #45 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:00pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 3:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:50pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

the only thing that needs to change is that representatives for any area should be chosen by the rank and file in that area .... if that had happened they wouldn't have owed their loyalty to either Rudd or Gillard and none of this would have happened in the first place.

I have long been an advocate for this, even to the extent of putting up a candidate in defiance of Head Office and supporting ONLY that candidate.

Capacity for that has existed for decades, and still does. Plebiscites, they are known as.

I think John is, I know I am, talking about local branch members choosing their own candidate (preferably local) to run for election without interference from Head Office.

that's exactly what I was talking about froggie, thanks for clarifying that

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Reply #46 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:53pm

The federal Labor Caucus has approved the Prime Minister's plan to allow party members half the votes in electing the leader of the party.

Caucus members gathered at Balmain Town Hall to vote on the reforms, which Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has said were aimed at bringing back disillusioned party members and encouraging others.

It is nearly a month since Caucus reinstated him in the job he was dumped from three years ago.

Now, for a leadership spill to occur in government, 75 per cent of Caucus will need to sign a petition to force a ballot.

However, they decided Mr Rudd's proposal for a 75 per cent threshold of Caucus support to trigger a leadership ballot in opposition was too high.

Labor backbencher Daryl Melham says there was overwhelming support to lower the cut-off to 60 per cent.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-22/rudd-wins-caucus-support-for-party-reform/...

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Reply #47 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:57pm

Gee Nappy, thanks for that breaking news!

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Did some very clevah dick up there ^^^^^^ mention that 60% was a more likely number, and that Rudd's proposals would get through.

Today was the day Rudd also got the ALP back on a better standing internally.

Kevin is going pretty damn fine, thank you very much!

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Reply #48 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:19pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Gee Nappy, thanks for that breaking news!

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Did some very clevah dick up there ^^^^^^ mention that 60% was a more likely number, and that Rudd's proposals would get through.

Today was the day Rudd also got the ALP back on a better standing internally.

Kevin is going pretty damn fine, thank you very much!

I posted the EVIDENCE you fwit ... Roll Eyes

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Reply #49 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:41pm

Neferti wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Gee Nappy, thanks for that breaking news!

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Did some very clevah dick up there ^^^^^^ mention that 60% was a more likely number, and that Rudd's proposals would get through.

Today was the day Rudd also got the ALP back on a better standing internally.

Kevin is going pretty damn fine, thank you very much!

I posted the EVIDENCE you fwit ... Roll Eyes

Aren't you supposed to be a clevah www dick? Click on the 'very clevah dick up there ^^^^^^' (in red) and hey presto, you will see that I posted the evidence 'you bugger wit.'

Cheesy

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Reply #50 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm

And the Labor party just rolls over on one principle after another in the pursuit of power under the psychopath, Rudd. And the gutless laborites just nod their heads in agreement rather than in shame. Yes, Rudd might just win but the government her presides over may literally destroy the ALP. That would be a price Rudd is willing to pay - since he wouldn't be paying it. But the rest of you?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #51 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm:

And the Labor party just rolls over on one principle after another in the pursuit of power under the psychopath, Rudd. And the gutless laborites just nod their heads in agreement rather than in shame. Yes, Rudd might just win but the government her presides over may literally destroy the ALP. That would be a price Rudd is willing to pay - since he wouldn't be paying it. But the rest of you?

Dunno about you melielongtime, but I'm happy that a strong step has been taken to stop Achmed by way of deterring people from getting on his crappy boat.

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Reply #52 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:48pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm:

And the Labor party just rolls over on one principle after another in the pursuit of power under the psychopath, Rudd. And the gutless laborites just nod their heads in agreement rather than in shame. Yes, Rudd might just win but the government her presides over may literally destroy the ALP. That would be a price Rudd is willing to pay - since he wouldn't be paying it. But the rest of you?

Dunno about you melielongtime, but I'm happy that a strong step has been taken to stop Achmed by way of deterring people from getting on his crappy boat.

but as the details come through we see that it has no hope of making any difference. It only applies to single males and it still has no solution for those NOT accepted as refugees. And there appears to be a limit which could be as few as 600 per annum. It is just another screwup by Rudd that will actually make little to no difference to the numbers arriving.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #53 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm:

And the Labor party just rolls over on one principle after another in the pursuit of power under the psychopath, Rudd. And the gutless laborites just nod their heads in agreement rather than in shame. Yes, Rudd might just win but the government her presides over may literally destroy the ALP. That would be a price Rudd is willing to pay - since he wouldn't be paying it. But the rest of you?

Dunno about you melielongtime, but I'm happy that a strong step has been taken to stop Achmed by way of deterring people from getting on his crappy boat.

but as the details come through we see that it has no hope of making any difference. It only applies to single males and it still has no solution for those NOT accepted as refugees. And there appears to be a limit which could be as few as 600 per annum. It is just another screwup by Rudd that will actually make little to no difference to the numbers arriving.

melielongtime, I'm happy to debate issues on the facts, not your stupid strawman garbage. The solution is this.....if you arrive by Achmed's boat you will either go to Manus Paradus or from whence you came. If you choose Manus Paradus, then the blokes go now, and the wives and kids follow when Manus Paradus is fitted with powder rooms and swings.

What part of that do you not fully understand?

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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Rudd crashing through. Reply #54 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm Rudd's crashing alright. A wheel has come off the Ruddmobile whilst he's racing along making his policy on the run.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38765 Gender:	Re: Rudd crashing through. Reply #55 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:43pm chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:01pm: Rudd's crashing alright. A wheel has come off the Ruddmobile whilst he's racing along making his policy on the run.
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Reply #56 - Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:02pm:

And the Labor party just rolls over on one principle after another in the pursuit of power under the psychopath, Rudd. And the gutless laborites just nod their heads in agreement rather than in shame. Yes, Rudd might just win but the government her presides over may literally destroy the ALP. That would be a price Rudd is willing to pay - since he wouldn't be paying it. But the rest of you?

Weren't you the one claiming he had no principles? How can he roll over something he doesn't have? You Dope!

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