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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #105 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 10:44am

Rudd's 61 lies?

No, No, No!

He has covered himself, his now famous saying is "Circumstances Change" and then put the guilt onto Australian tax payers and says "We Have to Change". I in return say "F#%K YOU KEV" YOU AND YOUR F*#KED UP LABOR PARTY HAD THE CHANCE" YOU ARE RIGHT ONLY IN ONE THING KEV! WE HAVE TO CHANGE!"

It is not lies, it is incompetence on behalf of the Labor Government and this is the FACT!

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Reply #106 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:01am

Lie 5

He is the most conservative politician to become leader of the Liberal Party in its history.

really?
And how would Kevin the great measure this conservativeness...?
who has he measured it against?

this is just Labor propaganda
it infers that being a conservative is a bad thing. However crazy Kevin has forgotten that he once sold himself to the public as being a big conservative himself. Grin

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #107 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:01am Well we all know GEN X just how disingenuous Crazy Kevin is.... some of us ignore it, some of us recognise it but don't care, some of us point it out. I prefer the latter option... ignorance isn't really bliss... it is just ignorance.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #108 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:03am

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 10:51pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 9:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

So in actual fact, Grendel, Rudd has driven the economy into the ground, ruined our national security, utterly destroyed our country for generations to come, but he wants pointing this out to be illegal. Like Stalin or Mao.

Good heavens, and that’s only 3 lies. This can only get much worse.

These leftards are appalling!

I've been ignoring you karnal.
I gather you are not wondering why.

Since I'm a LWer and conservative by nature, I doubt I call all members of the Left leftards or think they are all appalling.

interesting no refutation about as usual. Grin

I couldn’t refute your insight, Grendel. You probably ignore me because I’m not as smart as you.

These leftards are vile.

I'd only ignore you if you kept saying stupid non-factual things karnal.
Got nothing to do with both our levels of intelligence.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #109 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am smack me! Is this total waste of bandwidth still going on? (Reaches for another Oxycodone.... SNORE!!!!).
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #110 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:07am Kat wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am: smack me! Is this total waste of bandwidth still going on? Thanks kat for your total lack of refutation... keep up the good work I'm pretty sure we'll have lots of time till Kevin calls the election. I do agree though... kevin is a total waste of bandwidth.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #111 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:09am

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

Having already shown our defence is not so robust as he claimed Rudd is already off to a bad start. He is saying here that any criticism of the government, or its policies, or the economy… is talking Australia down.

No. 2 is not a lie. Abbott continually undermined Gillard's leadership inferring that we were going downhill fast. It spread fear. Abbott is the liar. By talking down the work of a government - you create instability and uncertainty, not only nationally, but internationally.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #112 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:10am

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:01am:

Lie 5

He is the most conservative politician to become leader of the Liberal Party in its history.

really?
And how would Kevin the great measure this conservativeness...?
who has he measured it against?

this is just Labor propaganda
it infers that being a conservative is a bad thing. However crazy Kevin has forgotten that he once sold himself to the public as being a big conservative himself. Grin

Well I dont see where you have proven its a lie. Of course rudd is a conservative but abbott is way more conservative. Who do you think was a more conservative leader of the libs?

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #113 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:10am

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Kat wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

smack me!

Is this total waste of bandwidth still going on?

Thanks kat for your total lack of refutation... keep up the good work Wink

I'm pretty sure we'll have lots of time till Kevin calls the election.

I do agree though... kevin is a total waste of bandwidth. Grin

Not lack of refutation, mate.

Lack of interest in the topic, well not so much that as the way it's being 'debated'.

I DID try, though, last night......

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #114 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:12am Has grendel provided actual evidence for ANY lies yet? SOB
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #115 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:13am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:12am: Has grendel provided actual evidence for ANY lies yet? SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg Evidence? EVIDENCE????!!! We don' need no steenkin' 'evidence'...... (To be read in stereotypical 'Mexican Bandido' lingo).
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #116 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:17am

mantra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:09am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

Having already shown our defence is not so robust as he claimed Rudd is already off to a bad start. He is saying here that any criticism of the government, or its policies, or the economy… is talking Australia down.

No. 2 is not a lie. Abbott continually undermined Gillard's leadership inferring that we were going downhill fast. It spread fear. Abbott is the liar. By talking down the work of a government - you create instability and uncertainty, not only nationally, but internationally.

this is lie 2 mantra

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Lie 2.

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And the core fact is this: Australia is seen around the world as one of the strongest economies, one of the most stable societies, as well as a nation underpinned by a robust national security.

If you are going to participate at least get on track, it is there in black and white.

As for your concern re an opposition doing an opposition's job... pull the other one, there have been bipartisan support for many things and don't forget 86% of legislation was passed by the Libs as well. If you want to look at negativity you don't need to look further than the ALP... and their blame... Abbott, Abbott, Abbott mantra... mantra. Grin

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #117 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:19am

Kat wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Kat wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

smack me!

Is this total waste of bandwidth still going on?

Thanks kat for your total lack of refutation... keep up the good work Wink

I'm pretty sure we'll have lots of time till Kevin calls the election.

I do agree though... kevin is a total waste of bandwidth. Grin

Not lack of refutation, mate.

Lack of interest in the topic, well not so much that as the way it's being 'debated'.

I DID try, though, last night......

Well kat I didn't start the topic... Cheesy

Like I said... no refutation... plenty of ad hom but then that is what LW Progs are known for isn't it.
All bile, piss and wind, but no facts.

Latham was right... Labor knows how to hate.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26513 Australia	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #118 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:21am Actually there was refutation but you ignored it and replied to the off topics instead. SOB
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #119 - Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:27am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 13^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Actually there was refutation but you ignored it and replied to the off topics instead.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Nope... talking about factual truthful stuff Spotty... I ignore nothing. Not even karnal truth be known, just don't answer his nonsensical crappy stuff.

Happy to concede when I'm proven wrong. Ad hom don't cut it.

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