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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #195 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:01am

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Oh so you reckon its not 100%? What exactly has abbott put forward that isnt negative then?

One more time for Spotty...
Who needs to learn that not everything labor tells him is true.

86% of legislation passed in parliament with bipartisan support Spotty... any bells ringing in your head yet.?
No?
I suggest then you go back and read what I've actually written for a change you may just find your answers, since it is clear you don't pay attention to politics in Australia very much at all.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #196 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:03am Looks like we won't be getting on to lie 9 today does if folks... well I've gotta zip
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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #197 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:30am This thread title should be changed to "Grendel's 61 lies and obfuscation". No-one will get a straight answer from him.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96878	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #198 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:51am You’re losing valuable lie time here, Grendel.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96878	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #199 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:52am mantra wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:30am: This thread title should be changed to "Grendel's 61 lies and obfuscation". No-one will get a straight answer from him. Patience Mantra patience.. He’s up to lie 3.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #200 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:56am

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:01am:

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Oh so you reckon its not 100%? What exactly has abbott put forward that isnt negative then?

One more time for Spotty...
Who needs to learn that not everything labor tells him is true.

86% of legislation passed in parliament with bipartisan support Spotty... any bells ringing in your head yet.?
No?
I suggest then you go back and read what I've actually written for a change you may just find your answers, since it is clear you don't pay attention to politics in Australia very much at all.

Abbott doesnt talk about that though does he. He talks negatively about the government and economy which is obviously what Rudd was talking about. So - why all the adhom? Dont like what im saying/asking? Have you answered my other question yet?

Who is more conservative than abbott?

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #201 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:55pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:49am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Since I'm not biased like you

Do you actually think anyone will believe that?

Grin

Well it is true.
I am a swinging voter
I am LW and conservative.
How many different parties have you ever voted for? Cheesy

Are you through with the ad hom.
care to debate the topic for a change?
You know participate in the actual topic. Grin

you spend so much time on here trying to discredit labor ..... you may have once upon a time being a swinging voter, but that's not the case now. Nothing Rudd does or says will change how you vote ... that makes you as rusted on as the next bloke.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #202 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:59pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

mantra wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

This thread title should be changed to "Grendel's 61 lies and obfuscation".

No-one will get a straight answer from him.

Patience Mantra patience..

He’s up to lie 3.

No karnal I'm almost up to nine except for the fact you can't seem to tell what talking down australia means and your ability to count lies and know what each of them are is flakey.

Butt out mantra if you can't participate don't snipe.

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Reply #203 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:00pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:49am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Since I'm not biased like you

Do you actually think anyone will believe that?

Grin

Well it is true.
I am a swinging voter
I am LW and conservative.
How many different parties have you ever voted for? Cheesy

Are you through with the ad hom.
care to debate the topic for a change?
You know participate in the actual topic. Grin

you spend so much time on here trying to discredit labor ..... you may have once upon a time being a swinging voter, but that's not the case now. Nothing Rudd does or says will change how you vote ... that makes you as rusted on as the next bloke.

I have know him for seven years, John, he's been a Labor hater all that time.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #204 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:49am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Since I'm not biased like you

Do you actually think anyone will believe that?

Grin

Well it is true.
I am a swinging voter
I am LW and conservative.
How many different parties have you ever voted for? Cheesy

Are you through with the ad hom.
care to debate the topic for a change?
You know participate in the actual topic. Grin

you spend so much time on here trying to discredit labor ..... you may have once upon a time being a swinging voter, but that's not the case now. Nothing Rudd does or says will change how you vote ... that makes you as rusted on as the next bloke.

Did it ever cross your mind I'm sticking to the topic john? no? how unusual.
having another snipe from the sidelines I see. Roll Eyes

I have known of kevin since his Goss days. what do you know about Dr Death john?

I don't particularly like Rudd as a person from what I actually know of him. But if Labor came up with a range of policies I really liked and they could convince me they will implement them and do a good job of it I might just vote for them again. Oh yes again Johnboy.
If the Coalition come up with some howlers or even one really big howler I might not vote for them again... oh yes I have voted for other parties too.

Now bugger off with your mindless prattle about me of whom you know next to nothing whilst I get on with the painful task of talking to rusted-on biased people who I already know will not concede anything even when they are patently wrong.

I'm waiting to get on with 9...

Oh and John... I didn't start this topic... it was a challenge set by someone else.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #205 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:07pm ps. John I don't have to discredit Labor... they managed to do that all by themselves. or do you disagree with that?
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #206 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:49am:

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Since I'm not biased like you

Do you actually think anyone will believe that?

Grin

Well it is true.
I am a swinging voter
I am LW and conservative.
How many different parties have you ever voted for? Cheesy

Are you through with the ad hom.
care to debate the topic for a change?
You know participate in the actual topic. Grin

you spend so much time on here trying to discredit labor ..... you may have once upon a time being a swinging voter, but that's not the case now. Nothing Rudd does or says will change how you vote ... that makes you as rusted on as the next bloke.

I have know him for seven years, John, he's been a Labor hater all that time.

Now now Skippy you're the hater you and mantra and co.
I just tell the truth.
go take your meds there's a good roo.
I just hate people telling lies Skippy, you know that. Grin

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #207 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 1:36pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 12:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

mantra wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 11:30am:

This thread title should be changed to "Grendel's 61 lies and obfuscation".

No-one will get a straight answer from him.

Patience Mantra patience..

He’s up to lie 3.

No karnal I'm almost up to nine except for the fact you can't seem to tell what talking down australia means and your ability to count lies and know what each of them are is flakey.

You’ve confused the order, Grendel. Each time a lie is successfully rebutted, the number goes back. I don’t make the rules, you know.

You’re up to 3 now. Please keep going.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #208 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 2:06pm

Ok I understand you guys need a break...

So I'll just post an article that kinda backs me up where kevin is concerned.
I mean it's obvious you are finding it hard to take my word for it. Grin

Remember now, this is the guy you lot are defending and in some cases supporting Cheesy

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Rudd 2.0 - bathroom selfies, puffball speeches ... but no plan

* by: Miranda Devine
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* July 14, 2013

HOW stupid does Kevin Rudd think we are? Does he really think a selfie of his latest shaving cut will translate into votes?

People might notice and laugh, but only for the novelty of a Prime Minister behaving so childishly.

Of course, after three years of Julia Gillard's grating divisiveness and political misjudgment, Rudd's ascension came as a relief to the electorate. It was the next best thing to a change of government.

But if we are upset with soaring energy prices, rising unemployment, the wasted billions, the layoffs, the shuttered shops and failing small businesses, not to mention the 45,000 boat people he ushered to our doors, Rudd has no answers.

It's extraordinary that, having spent three years in the wilderness, Rudd has not retooled his persona, nor come up with a plan.

His puffball National Press Club speech was notable for its premature hubris, lack of substance and internal contradictions.

Pumping up the need to be positive, he laid into Tony Abbott 22 times.

His latest "brain explosion", scribbled on a piece of paper before a speech in Arnhem Land last week, was more evidence Rudd hasn't learned from his disastrous first term.

He announced a referendum within two years to recognise Aborigines in the Constitution and blamed "Captain Negative" Abbott for the delay. The allegation couldn't have been more dishonest.

Former Labor Party president and indigenous leader Warren Mundine called it "disgusting" on Sky News.

In fact, Abbott and Jenny Macklin have been working together for two years to ensure bipartisan support for the referendum.

As for his much ballyhooed changes to the way Labor leaders are removed, all is not as it seems.

The rule change has not been written into the ALP constitution. So a simple caucus vote in the future could undo Rudd's so-called reform. The next vote would be to remove Rudd once and for all.

But, first, it's the voters' turn.

Hope you liked it.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #209 - Jul 14^th, 2013 at 2:32pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 14^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

Ok I understand you guys need a break...

So I'll just post an article that kinda backs me up where kevin is concerned.
I mean it's obvious you are finding it hard to take my word for it. Grin Grin Grin

Remember now, this is the guy you lot are defending and in some cases supporting Cheesy

Grendel that is an opinion only interpreted and spruiked by a RW journalist.

Regardless of Devine's comments - at least Rudd is saying something. Has the cat got Abbott's tongue?

Where is he? What's he doing to further his cause? The only people who are trying to sell Abbott are a few RW journo's, broadcasters and of course the occasional supporter who has to invent a Coalition policy. We need to hear something from the horse's mouth to confirm the mutterings of the right whingers.

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