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Reply #255 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 7:43pm:
Gretel, are you a masochist?

I don't understand why you keep coming back to this thread to have your but handed back to you over and over again ... if you had any sort of brain you'd leave it alone and let it run of the page.

He loves be rogered, Ive been doing him slowly for seven years or so and he can't get enough. Sad to watch really.
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Reply #256 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:10pm
 
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I don't hate the guy, I never said I did.


Really, hard to believe, considering you are willing to pan him relentlessly for no real reason and acept ALP propaganda about him as a given.

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Why don't I want him to be PM?

Because the Austerity measures he & Hockey advocate have been a TOTAL FAILURE around the rest of the world.


What austerity measures?  That is ALP propaganda you've swallowed.  Why?  what actual policies  are austere?

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Europe is heading or has achieved a TRIPLE DIP recession.


So what.  Can't blame Abbott or Hockey for that.

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Do you really think a tightening of spending is a way to encourage business & consumer confidence?


I think a country like a home must live within it's means and budgets must be cut to fit the situation.  None of their rhetoric or policies so far seem detrimental to business or consumer confidence.  Except of course the scaremongering from the ALP.
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Reply #257 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:16pm
 
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He panders to the LOWEST common denominator, he appeals from the perspective of fear & distrust(like the church), we all know its not about stopping reffos drowning its about stopping Mussies & brown people coming here.


Personally I think Kevin does.   Those who would fill the pages of a particular Hans Christian Anderson book.

I'm sorry to see it, but your personal bias about the guy is rather pathetic.  Not to mention unsustainable based on no proof.  Do you hate "brown people" and muslims...  Your racist libel is pathetic.

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Its not about saving peoples Cost of Living its about saving energy companies money.


Spoken like a true socialist. Comrade.

I guess we've worked out the hatred bit after all eh.
The progressive Left hates as mark latham pointed out years ago.
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Reply #258 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:18pm
 
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He has not once since taking the leadership of the Liberal Party of Australia offered a POSITIVE outlook for our nation.


If you don't listen or read what the man says how would you know?

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He has not once offered any DETAIL even in the BROADEST terms on how he will achieve his rhetoric.


If you don't listen or read what the man says how would you know?  BTW don't start with the policy crap, every Labor government tries that one on before campaigns...  it has grown/groan rather old.
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Reply #259 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:27pm
 
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He cant string together 2 coherent words when asked an off the cuff question, imagine him trying to talk with Putin,Obama,Brown in fact any world leader.
What if they asked a difficult question.....ahhhhhhh.....ummmmmm......ahhhhhhh.haha.....oh Merkel coming over(not even realising that's her surname)

He is a BULLY, a spoilt bully who resorts to intimidation if he doesn't get his way.

THAT WHY I DO NOT WANT THIS MAN LEADING MY COUNTRY!


What a load of baseless crap...
you want to believe all that because you want to dislike him, he is the opposition.
It is true I have seen him stumble a few times.
Did you see Rudd stumble the other day?
I've seen many politicians stumble over the years... 

What you just wrote is again just prejudice based on propaganda.  He has met dignitaries before and yet there is no proof or even a hint at a stumble.

I have heard his prepared speeches and they all work rather well.

His co-workers in the rural fires service and lifeguards all speak well of him as a person.  He is seen as down to earth and approachable.  He helps the aboriginals on remote locations and many charities.

Is this the same person you have described.  You think maybe you might have it a bit wrong?

Personally the leader of either party will not effect my vote.  I'll vote for the policies I think are best for my country.  Leaders usually do not have much effect on that, even Gillard and our worst government managed to get most of their legislation through parliament.  I doubt the Coalition and Abbott can do worse.
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Reply #260 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:29pm
 
gotta zip folks
we're cookin' with gas eh...  Grin

yeah great language for a PM I know...  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #261 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 11:07pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 7:57pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 7:43pm:
Gretel, are you a masochist?

I don't understand why you keep coming back to this thread to have your but handed back to you over and over again ... if you had any sort of brain you'd leave it alone and let it run of the page.


I'm not going to let you people post unchallenged lies John so suck it up...  not even the one you just posted even if it is pathetic.


how is my comment a lie? you keep coming back to this thread despite being made to look like a fool each and every time, do you enjoy it? ...

if you can think of a better word than masochist I'm listening.
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #262 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 11:10pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Not only do companies pay for the carbon tax many pay for the up to 400% increase in refrigerant costs. 



How often do you, or anyone else for that matter,  re- gas your fridge ?
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Reply #263 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 12:10am
 
Are we there ye...Oh!

Carry on.
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Reply #264 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 12:14am
 
is this nonsense still going?
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Reply #265 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 12:26am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 10:27pm:
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He cant string together 2 coherent words when asked an off the cuff question, imagine him trying to talk with Putin,Obama,Brown in fact any world leader.
What if they asked a difficult question.....ahhhhhhh.....ummmmmm......ahhhhhhh.haha.....oh Merkel coming over(not even realising that's her surname)

He is a BULLY, a spoilt bully who resorts to intimidation if he doesn't get his way.

THAT WHY I DO NOT WANT THIS MAN LEADING MY COUNTRY!


What a load of baseless crap...
you want to believe all that because you want to dislike him, he is the opposition.
It is true I have seen him stumble a few times.
Did you see Rudd stumble the other day?
I've seen many politicians stumble over the years... 

What you just wrote is again just prejudice based on propaganda.  He has met dignitaries before and yet there is no proof or even a hint at a stumble.

I have heard his prepared speeches and they all work rather well.

His co-workers in the rural fires service and lifeguards all speak well of him as a person.  He is seen as down to earth and approachable.  He helps the aboriginals on remote locations and many charities.

Is this the same person you have described.  You think maybe you might have it a bit wrong?

Personally the leader of either party will not effect my vote.  I'll vote for the policies I think are best for my country.  Leaders usually do not have much effect on that, even Gillard and our worst government managed to get most of their legislation through parliament.  I doubt the Coalition and Abbott can do worse.


Yes, leftards, policies.
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Reply #266 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 6:02am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 1:15pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 9:32am:
But the lie first, thanks, Grendel. We must have an orderly process here.

I don’t make the rules, you know.


Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Another time waster eh karnal...  Roll Eyes
try writing something truthful for a change.
I might respond.  Wink


I have written something truthful, Grendel. I don't make the rules - you've already laid them out. You tell the lies and answer every serious post.

But there has to be an order - no queue jumpers, thanks. Smithy first, then the lie, then SOB.

You haven't done the 3rd lie yet.

We're waiting, Grendel.


Ahh okay karnal. i just wanted to make him answer just 1 question - just 1 - but he wont. Seems the lies are omnipotent and have a forcefield around them.

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Reply #267 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 6:07am
 
Grendel why dont you just list the 61 lies in a post and be done with it? Number them 1 . . 2 . . .3 . . .  etc?

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Reply #268 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 11:17am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 16th, 2013 at 6:07am:
Grendel why dont you just list the 61 lies in a post and be done with it? Number them 1 . . 2 . . .3 . . .  etc?

SOB

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Because Grendel says he wants to be done slowly, SOB. Skippy says it's sad, but Grendel says he enjoys it.
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Reply #269 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 11:30am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 11:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 15th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Not only do companies pay for the carbon tax many pay for the up to 400% increase in refrigerant costs. 



How often do you, or anyone else for that matter,  re- gas your fridge ?


You goose John best you just snipe from the sidelines eh...  your ignorance is showing... all refrigeration including transport vehicles and stores like woolies and coles etc use it duh!!!
Oh and John your car air-con is affected too  Grin
Try and think for a moment just how many industries use it on a daily basis around the clock....  any with perishables you dummy.

oh dear...  and yes refilling of gases and replacement of gases can occur at least on a yearly or quaterly basis depending on the usage.  BTW it is very expensive now that it at least 4 times the cost.

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With refrigerant gas wholesale price increased up to 400% since July 1st, 2012, a typical gas leak in a commercial installation can run into tens of thousands of dollars.


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The director of a large Victorian refrigeration company says speculation surrounding the impact of the carbon tax is crippling the industry.

John Beninato's business services 70 food manufacturers and cold storage sites across the state, including the Melbourne fish markets.

Mr Beninato says the impact of the tax has forced industrial refrigerator gas prices up by more than 400 per cent.


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“Freighters have advised customers that they will be passing on a carbon tax surcharge. The price of refrigerant gases have gone up by 400 per cent in some cases. These increases must be factored in by all businesses that use electricity, require refrigeration or sell goods that need transportation. This cost is then passed on to customers who buy milk, bread, fruit, vegetables and meat.”


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With the July 1 introduction of the carbon price, a number of periphery issues have come to light. One such issue is refrigerant gases - where suddenly companies with large cooling bills face price hikes of up to 400% on refrigerants.


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The increased price of refrigerants due to the Carbon Tax could be putting lives at risk.

The refrigerant industry has warned that the higher prices of traditional refrigerants which have increased by up to 400 per cent due to the Carbon Tax are tempting people to swap to other gases which are highly explosive but are a fraction of the cost.

Refrigerants Australia wrote to Minister Greg Combet in June warning of the risk:

“A most recent example of the consequences of substituting hydrocarbon refrigerants for non-flammable refrigerants occurred at Tamahere in New Zealand in April 2008, where a coolstore was retrofitted with a flammable hydrocarbon refrigerant.


An annual bill of say $10,000 suddenly becomes $40,000 for a business like a Coles store for instance, that means a manager suddenly puts off a whole load of casual staff previously dependent on their wage.

I've seen it happen  Roll Eyes
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