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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #30 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:14pm Patience karnal patience
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #31 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:14pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

I'm gonna do you all slowly...

1 lie at a time.

I'm waiting for a sensible rebuttal not crap and bile.

So far me 1... backed up by the F A C T S. Wink

You haven't given any facts, only opinions .... you seem to struggle with understanding the difference between the two.

No John you are ignoring the facts or refusing to recognise them.
Either way not a good look or very constructive.
Don't waste my time with having to refute and correct all of your opinions individually or we'll be here forever.

so despite the fact that you've been told by everybody on this thread that you are full of crap, you are going to persist with your ridiculous claim? instead of telling everyone else they are wrong, why don't you explain why you think an opinion should be seen as a lie?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96815	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #32 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:20pm Grendel, I’ve asked Socrates and Generation X, but they won’t tell me. Why won’t Mr Abbott debate this Rudd charleton and rebut all those lies? Apparently there’s this complicated legal reason, but I can’t make head or tail of it. Do you know?
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Reply #33 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Grendel, I’ve asked Socrates and Generation X, but they won’t tell me. Why won’t Mr Abbott debate this Rudd charleton and rebut all those lies?

Apparently there’s this complicated legal reason, but I can’t make head or tail of it.

Do you know?

patience Karnal, patience.

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Reply #34 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:01pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Grendel, I’ve asked Socrates and Generation X, but they won’t tell me. Why won’t Mr Abbott debate this Rudd charleton and rebut all those lies?

Apparently there’s this complicated legal reason, but I can’t make head or tail of it.

Do you know?

patience Karnal, patience.

Yes, I’m sure Mr Abbott will tell us his policies after the election.

I doubt he’ll debate that liar Rudd though. Mr Abbott wants to surprise us.

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Reply #35 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:05pm

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Grendel, I’ve asked Socrates and Generation X, but they won’t tell me. Why won’t Mr Abbott debate this Rudd charleton and rebut all those lies?

Apparently there’s this complicated legal reason, but I can’t make head or tail of it.

Do you know?

patience Karnal, patience.

Yes, I’m sure Mr Abbott will tell us his policies after the election.

I doubt he’ll debate that liar Rudd though. Mr Abbott wants to surprise us.

Yes. Rudd has told 61 lies. ANd they are so blatant we don't even know what they are! That damn Rudd and his lies. The liar. 61 lies.

Mr Abbott has said THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVERNMENT I LEAD, and he means it!. IN fact, he will AX THE TAX, KEEP THE COMPENSATION and initiate the GREEN ARMY. All whilst delivering SURPLUS, SURPLUS, SURPLUS.

Just wait and see leftards. Mr Abbott is a respectable man who doesn't stray from the well written and prepared statements. He has a plan for the first fortnight of the sitting parliament. ANd that is to AX THE TAX, IMPLEMENT DIRECT ACTION, and have a double dissolution election if necessary!

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #36 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:12pm Well alevine I've given you the chance to talk sensibly and refute what I said... so far all of you have failed to do so. Is that then you conceding? Or is it too hard to admit. I don't mind debating politics with honest people I just don't like to waste my time with dribblers who can't admit or concede.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96815	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #37 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:16pm Yes, Alevine. Proof that there aren’t 61 lies, please. You’re right about Mr Abbott though. He’s telling the truth.
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Reply #38 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:29pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 11:12pm:

Well alevine I've given you the chance to talk sensibly and refute what I said... so far all of you have failed to do so.

Is that then you conceding?
Or is it too hard to admit.
I don't mind debating politics with honest people
I just don't like to waste my time with dribblers who can't admit or concede.

You are yet to provide anything within Rudd's speech that was a lie. You said you can provide 61 lines that were lies. Where are they? You talk of honest people, try being one.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96815	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #39 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:44am Patience Alevine patience. Grendel won’t answer until an election date is announced. That’s the law.
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Reply #40 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:54am

Mr Abbott had a good comeback for the journalists. He stood there at the doorstop and griped for a while about Rudd’s speech, and when they all said, well Rudd said you’d say that, you’re just being negative, Mr Abbott said, "well, well, come on... you’ve all been taking his phone calls when Julia Gillard was in power."

They were too. Constantly. Rudd was merciless with his leaks and distortions. How could they forget that?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #41 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:34am Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:44am: Patience Alevine patience. Grendel won’t answer until an election date is announced. That’s the law. Nope just busy... will also look up some stats to back up lie 2 so you guys don't go into denial and ask me to do it later.
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Reply #42 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:59am

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Lie1.
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Instead it is based on a cold, hard analysis of the facts – including our ability to manage change when change is necessary.

So lie number 1 is a personal opinion

And to prove that personal opinion is a lie, we quote yet another personal opinion

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According to Tony Burke he recently stated that the government failed to change policy fast enough to adapt to the changing circumstances re boat people and people smuggling from Indonesia.

So apparently because you have a different personal opinion to me by your definition , YOU Mr Grendal are a liar.

Mate if that's all you've got we really did just waste bandwidth didn't we?
Go peddle your bullsh!t over on Larry's site with Red, you'll be hailed as a hero there.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #43 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:11pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:34am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:44am:

Patience Alevine patience.

Grendel won’t answer until an election date is announced.

That’s the law.

Nope just busy... will also look up some stats to back up lie 2 so you guys don't go into denial and ask me to do it later. Roll Eyes

Maybe next time you should make your 61 lie claim when you're not so busy, Grendel.

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Reply #44 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 12:12pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Quote:

Lie1.
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Instead it is based on a cold, hard analysis of the facts – including our ability to manage change when change is necessary.

So lie number 1 is a personal opinion

And to prove that personal opinion is a lie, we quote yet another personal opinion

Quote:

According to Tony Burke he recently stated that the government failed to change policy fast enough to adapt to the changing circumstances re boat people and people smuggling from Indonesia.

So apparently because you have a different personal opinion to me by your definition , YOU Mr Grendal are a liar.

Mate if that's all you've got we really did just waste bandwidth didn't we?
Go peddle your bullsh!t over on Larry's site with Red, you'll be hailed as a hero there.

Patience dsmithy patience. Grendal is still collating 2 more lies for us. And then 58 more. Grendel is very diligent and our patience is required.

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