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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #390 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:27pm No stomach for the truth then eh? Not to worry your glorious leader kevin has been caught out lying again. This time it is the details of the PNG deal he's been lying about.
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Reply #391 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:01pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Why don't you google it then like i did.

Everything I posted was true in fact the post was based on a Mark Kenny article.

It must gall you to have faith and believe the crap that Rudd and his party put out.

An articly where Mark was very obviously wrong or didn't know what he was talking about.

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Reply #392 - Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 11:12am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:36am:

Lies damned lies and the ALP...

2/ The interest rate cut. Borrowers, of course, welcome any relief, which is why Rudd was crowing on Tuesday. But Labor's claim that Hockey was arguing against the cut was nonsense. just another lie. Swan used to do the same thing as Rudd claim low interest rates were a Labor blessing bestowed upon the public yet failed to mention that RBA reductions were made to stir a stagnant economy. The Reserve Bank has been ordering cuts to stimulate a slowing economy for years. Considering te ALP's dishonesty with just about everything, the wisdom of Hockey to get into an argument about rates, is debatable. But his point about the lowest cash rate since the 1950s, a soft economy and a worrying outlook, is completely correct.

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Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey says the Reserve Bank's decision to cut the interest rate shows the economy is struggling and has been mismanaged by the Government.

Of course you guys are now saying that John Howard telling us for years that low interest rates were a good thing and a sign of their great economic management was a lie????

The question is why is it now that Hockey has chosen to call Howard a liar ???

"Interest rates will always be lower under a coalition government" John Howard - and a line worshipped by ever conservative supporter.

You got the title wrong - it does not say Howards 61 Lies.

Howard himself address this one. AS he pointed out, low interest rates in a stagnant or failing economy are an embarrassment - or should be. The real skill is getting low interest rates in a BOOMING economy.

AS he pointed out, low interest rates in a stagnant or failing economy are an embarrassment -

When Interest rates went to their lowest following 2000 with a world economic downturn coupled with the introduction of the GST interest rates were reduced to stimulate an economy in trouble - the very same reason we see at this time. Howard is just trying to rewrite the history and to modify his original statment in order to appear to have been honest.

Had gillard said the same thing it would have been labled as a lie.

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Reply #393 - Aug 18^th, 2013 at 10:30pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Why don't you google it then like i did.

Everything I posted was true in fact the post was based on a Mark Kenny article.

It must gall you to have faith and believe the crap that Rudd and his party put out.

An articly where Mark was very obviously wrong or didn't know what he was talking about.

Spoken like a true denialist or someone incapable of doing a bit of research or keeping up to date on Australian politics or all of the above. Grin

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Reply #394 - Aug 18^th, 2013 at 10:32pm

Grendel wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

No stomach for the truth then eh?

Not to worry your glorious leader kevin has been caught out lying again.
This time it is the details of the PNG deal he's been lying about. Cheesy

No denial or refutation here?
No?

the other facts about Rudd lying are true as well... no need to go to great lengths to try and disprove the truth. Cheesy

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #395 - Aug 30^th, 2013 at 3:15pm A week and a bit to go and Kevin and Co are still trotting out the lies... Now Treasury has walked away from them mid lie. When will they ever learn? The Liebor Party
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #396 - Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies.... Good news though people.... Labor lost Greens are down by almost a third. Kevin says he won't stand again... maybe... not that he can be trusted.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96815	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #397 - Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm: Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies.... I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one. How many, by the way?
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Reply #398 - Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

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Reply #399 - Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:46pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

That’s not many. I can think of more than that - by omission alone.

No, I’d say there must be at least 60 to 70 lies - possibly more. Am I right, Grendel?

Please explain.

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Reply #400 - Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:02pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

That’s not many. I can think of more than that - by omission alone.

No, I’d say there must be at least 60 to 70 lies - possibly more. Am I right, Grendel?

Please explain.

I would think that Abbott probably tells more lies before breakfast on most days that Rudd and Gillard combined since 2007.

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Reply #401 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:38am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

That’s not many. I can think of more than that - by omission alone.

No, I’d say there must be at least 60 to 70 lies - possibly more. Am I right, Grendel?

Please explain.

I would think that Abbott probably tells more lies before breakfast on most days that Rudd and Gillard combined since 2007.

I don't think Grendel would agree with you there, Dnarever.

Mind you, if Grendel was retrospective and looked at Mr Abbott's statements over the last 4 years - budget emergency, stopping boats, ending the Labor waste - I think he'd have to concur.

There's no budget emergency. problem with boats, or drastic spending waste anymore. Amazing what an election can do.

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Reply #402 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:22pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

Didn't count, you guys, are clueless anyway.
We could start with labor not losing any seats in Qld.
An unknown at the time but kevvy went ahead and said it anyway. he just can't help himself.

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Reply #403 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

That’s not many. I can think of more than that - by omission alone.

No, I’d say there must be at least 60 to 70 lies - possibly more. Am I right, Grendel?

Please explain.

history lesson for karnal.

hey karnal... I didn't start this topic... one of your lefty mates did. Cheesy

let me know the year when the penny finally drops odds are I'll still be around somewhere.

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Reply #404 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

Sad isn't it... even in his seemingly endless concession speech KRudd still told lies....

I'm sorry, Grendel, that's not good enough. You're going to need to go through them one by one.

How many, by the way?

I think he ended with 1 maybe and 3 possible ????

That’s not many. I can think of more than that - by omission alone.

No, I’d say there must be at least 60 to 70 lies - possibly more. Am I right, Grendel?

Please explain.

I would think that Abbott probably tells more lies before breakfast on most days that Rudd and Gillard combined since 2007.

You would think that why?
because of your irrational personal and political bias against the guy? Roll Eyes

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