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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #75 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:40pm:

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Rudd is saying that iother countries around the world have that opinion of Australia. He isn't saying himself that it's a fact that Australia has a robust national security. So again, whilst you're arguing that Australia doesn't have a robust national security, Rudd never laid claim to that being a fact.

And robust national security prevents attacks on Australia. Last I checked no asylum seeker has attacked Australia.

And it's not a fact that nuclear weapons make a robust national security. That's your opinion.

I already posted the facts alevine you keep trying to squirm out of it.

I am against nuclear weapons so stop lying about me or I'll have to call you an idiot or a liar or some other appropriate epithet.

We cannot defend ourselves if a determined invader decided we were ripe for the picking. Hence our national security is not robust. Please provide a quote from other countries who have said as much.

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Rudd never laid claim to that being a fact.

He did and I already posted that and refuted it. Roll Eyes

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We all know we have no weapons of mass destruction. So just how robust is our national security?

sorry I jumped the gun and assumed mass destruction meant nuclear. Did you mean chemical?

You people keep complaining.... yet you keep delaying the debate with your nonsense.

You do know that chemical and biological weapons are deemed weapons of mass destruction don't you?

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A weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans and/or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere in general. The scope and application of the term has evolved and been disputed, often signifying more politically than technically. Coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives, it has come to distinguish large-scale weaponry of other technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear. This differentiates the term from more technical ones such as chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapons.

So you then did mean chemical? Or biological?

Anyway I'm terribly sorry for debating your points with you Grendel. Please continue to the next lie without any further interruption.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #76 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:59pm Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:45pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:43pm: You've got 1( a generous 1 at that) However you claimed 61 Lets get on with it, at this rate we'll be here until 2050 just getting to 10. So far I'm actually 2 for 2 smithy... Again, Personal Opinion confused for Facts/Truth
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #77 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 3:02pm Please continue Grendel.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #78 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 2:45pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:

You've got 1( a generous 1 at that)
However you claimed 61
Lets get on with it, at this rate we'll be here until 2050 just getting to 10.

So far I'm actually 2 for 2 smithy...

Again, Personal Opinion confused for Facts/Truth Cheesy

You people don't learn do you.... Roll Eyes

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #80 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:36pm

For the other slow learner...
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Do you then did mean chemical? Or biological.

Please read everything I post... I don't post it for no reason and it would save me having to re post as I have had to do for you lot several times now.

That tends to slow things down a bit Shocked

FYI they are all classed as WMDs... see the info posted previously. Roll Eyes

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Anyway I'm terribly sorry for debating your points with you Grendel. Please continue to the next lie without any further interruption.

I don't mind debate at all it's all the rest of the crap you lot subject people to that is tedious and odious.
You may debate points in a strange ignorant manner, but you all fail when it comes to refutation and are painful and wayward when it comes time to concede.

Once more I will wait till you do either.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #81 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:36pm:

For the other slow learner...
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Do you then did mean chemical? Or biological.

Please read everything I post... I don't post it for no reason and it would save me having to re post as I have had to do for you lot several times now.

That tends to slow things down a bit Shocked

FYI they are all classed as WMDs... see the info posted previously. Roll Eyes

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Anyway I'm terribly sorry for debating your points with you Grendel. Please continue to the next lie without any further interruption.

I don't mind debate at all it's all the rest of the crap you lot subject people to that is tedious and odious.
You may debate points in a strange ignorant manner, but you all fail when it comes to refutation and are painful and wayward when it comes time to concede.

Once more I will wait till you do either.

? What does this mean?
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We all know we have no weapons of mass destruction. So just how robust is our national security?

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #82 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

I've been busy most of the day and not had time to check on the list ... is he only up to number 2? I would have thought that with 61 lies, he'd be busting to get them out ... show everyone what a liar Rudd is ...

I'm starting to suspect it isn't Rudd doing the lying.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #83 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:50pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

I've been busy most of the day and not had time to check on the list ... is he only up to number 2? I would have thought that with 61 lies, he'd be busting to get them out ... show everyone what a liar Rudd is ...

I'm starting to suspect it isn't Rudd doing the lying.

Nope, he's been busy "educating" us. I'm very close to putting him into the whitey file and just moving along.

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #84 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:51pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

I've been busy most of the day and not had time to check on the list ... is he only up to number 2? I would have thought that with 61 lies, he'd be busting to get them out ... show everyone what a liar Rudd is ...

I'm starting to suspect it isn't Rudd doing the lying.

You guys let me know when we can move on ok.
I'm patient.
Even with time wasters. Roll Eyes

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #85 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

not that you don't need it.

I've been busy most of the day and not had time to check on the list ... is he only up to number 2? I would have thought that with 61 lies, he'd be busting to get them out ... show everyone what a liar Rudd is ...

I'm starting to suspect it isn't Rudd doing the lying.

Nope, he's been busy "educating" us. I'm very close to putting him into the whitey file and just moving along.

sigh.... I don't recall using the word "educating" alevine

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #86 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Anyway, anyway, Grendel, please continue to lie #2.

I've been busy most of the day and not had time to check on the list ... is he only up to number 2? I would have thought that with 61 lies, he'd be busting to get them out ... show everyone what a liar Rudd is ...

I'm starting to suspect it isn't Rudd doing the lying.

You guys let me know when we can move on ok.
I'm patient.
Even with time wasters. Roll Eyes

what was number 1 if you don't mind gretel? I haven't the time to go through 6 pages .....

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #87 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:55pm 6 pages and no real lie? that is roach, b o r i n g little rightwing mass debator!
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #88 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:56pm actually I don't know a gretel or a grendal... you guys are great time wasters I must say Good thing I'm so patient eh.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #89 - Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:57pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jul 12^th, 2013 at 5:55pm:

6 pages and no real lie? that is roach, b o r i n g little rightwing mass debator!

So they are not real lies eh Monk... unreal lies perhaps?
half-truths, exaggerations, fabrications... all lies I'm afraid Monk.

I'm actually a LW Conservative Monky ol' Boy, Jovial Monk, HBS Guy, George H etc.

wake me up when you guys are ready... Roll Eyes

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