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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm Off you go champ
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #1 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:51pm Here's the transcript again, Grendal. Please highlight them all, and list your arguments for why Rudd is lying. Cheers!!!
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38870 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #3 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:20pm 'Off you go champ.'
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #4 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm: Off you go champ can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:39pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Off you go champ Wink

can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?

I'm content that Grendel use his definition. Shut up melielongtime. We are waiting for Grendel.

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Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Off you go champ Wink

can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?

Fairrlllyy sure you're the one who was crying about the "big great budget surplus lie.'

Anyway, can you start a new topic if you want to talk about definitions of lying? This topic is SPECIFICALLY FOR GRENDEL

To highlight the 61 LIES FROM RUDD DURING HIS SPEECH.

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Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Off you go champ Wink

can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?

lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails

Are you not one of the prawns claiming that missed budget forcasts are lies ???

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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 6:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Off you go champ Wink

can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?

lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails

Are you not one of the prawns claiming that missed budget forcasts are lies ???

Ssshhhhhhh ... that was on a different thread, this thread is a totally different story

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 7:03pm Grendal?
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 7:14pm Aussie wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:20pm: 'Off you go champ.' http://i.imgur.com/lHQo5.gif hey another one taking the micky out of pyscho kev this time the combover!!!!think psycho needs to take a leaf out of this guys book.. this looks so much better..
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #11 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 7:16pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 11^th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

Off you go champ Wink

can we use the definition of 'lying' as used by lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails or do we have to use the dictionary definition? I presume that being a discussion on labor then we use the Hypocritical Model of debate?

lefties where a lie only has to be a prediction that fails

Are you not one of the prawns claiming that missed budget forcasts are lies ???

are you referring to the $1bn blow out for the boat people dna??..another misforecast

we from the right are not surprised in fact we are sort of used to the mistakes coming from YOUR govt..we will be surprised if they ever get something right. Grin

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #12 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:04pm LOL I notice boofy is avoiding this thread like the plague.
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Reply #13 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:36pm

Sorry Skip I only just noticed it.
Wrong as usual eh...

So where's the text hmmm...

Gotta do everything myself eh. I won't be going into great depth on everything ok just the 61 I already noted.

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Instead it is based on a cold, hard analysis of the facts – including our ability to manage change when change is necessary.

According to Tony Burke he recently stated that the government failed to change policy fast enough to adapt to the changing circumstances re boat people and people smuggling from Indonesia.

A meeting of all stakeholders and the Industry involved was not held by Minister Garrett until after deaths had occurred due to the governments badly conceived Pink Batts scheme.

The East Timor processing scheme... fail.
Fuelwatch... fail.
Grocerywatch... fail.
The Malaysia people swap deal... fail.
The MRRT... fail.
The added cost due to changes to power pricing due to ALP/Green policies.

All fails when it comes to implementation and the need for the government to change policy direction when it became necessary.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59419 Here Gender:	Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal Reply #14 - Jul 11^th, 2013 at 8:45pm Gee - the total still seems to be ZERO.
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