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Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal (Read 23302 times)
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Reply #90 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 5:58pm
 
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Reply #91 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 6:40pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 5:57pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 5:55pm:
6 pages and no real lie? that is roach, b o r i n g little rightwing mass debator!


So they are not real lies eh Monk...  unreal lies perhaps?
half-truths, exaggerations, fabrications...  all lies I'm afraid Monk.

I'm actually a LW Conservative Monky ol' Boy, Jovial Monk, HBS Guy, George H etc.

wake me up when you guys are ready...  Roll Eyes


I'm ready:

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Reply #92 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:21pm
 
*phlip you phucker*
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Reply #93 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:21pm
 
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Reply #94 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:27pm
 
I know exactly how she feels...  Roll Eyes

Lie 3
(lie  by inference)

For these reasons, it is just plain wrong for anybody in our national political debate to be talking Australia down.

Having already shown our defence is not so robust as he claimed Rudd is already off to a bad start.  He is saying here that any criticism of the government, or its policies, or the economy… is talking Australia down.  He is inferring (as ever) that Abbott and the Opposition are doing just that.  They are not.  When in Opposition, he did the exact same things the Opposition have been doing.  Then, he called it messing with Howard’s mind.  Criticism, dissent and indeed policy amendment, are things done by all parties and even some independents, it is not talking Australia down.

His inference is that Abbott and the Coalition are talking Australia down, and so are not doing their job.  They are the Opposition, and as such they are the major voice Australians have to disagree with the government.  To hold them to account.  It is not wrong for them to do so.  It is not “plain wrong” at all. It is expected and necessary that in our national political debate there are voices of dissent.

Hence Rudd has lied yet again, and proved himself disingenuous and hypocritical at the same time.

It is important that anyone in politics should be an honest broker and provide the population with correct information at all times. Pity that during elections the truth is often hard to discern especially when the rusted-on fail to address reality whilst barracking for their  “team”.  (Now that last para is indeed my opinion.)

You can lump in Lie 4...  with that as well.

But that is different to a daily diatribe of negative politics whose single objective is to cause the Australian people to feel that our national economy and our national security is on the verge of falling apart – if not now, then certainly by next Thursday afternoon.

It ain't daily, not necessarily negative and certainly does not have the single objective he mentions.

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Reply #95 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:31pm
 
Wow boofy certainly has problems. Cheesy
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Reply #96 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:32pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:31pm:
Wow boofy certainly has problems. Cheesy


Care to elaborate and cut the pointless ad hom for a change skip?
no?
how unusual.
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Reply #97 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:59pm
 
So in actual fact, Grendel, Rudd has driven the economy into the ground, ruined our national security, utterly destroyed our country for generations to come, but he wants pointing this out to be illegal. Like Stalin or Mao.

Good heavens, and that’s only 3 lies. This can only get much worse.

These leftards are appalling!
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Reply #98 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:25pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:59pm:
So in actual fact, Grendel, Rudd has driven the economy into the ground, ruined our national security, utterly destroyed our country for generations to come, but he wants pointing this out to be illegal. Like Stalin or Mao.

Good heavens, and that’s only 3 lies. This can only get much worse.

These leftards are appalling!


I've been ignoring you karnal.
I gather you are not wondering why.

Since I'm a LWer and conservative by nature, I doubt I call all members of the Left leftards or think they are all appalling.

interesting no refutation about as usual.  Grin
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #99 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:31pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:59pm:
So in actual fact, Grendel, Rudd has driven the economy into the ground, ruined our national security, utterly destroyed our country for generations to come, but he wants pointing this out to be illegal. Like Stalin or Mao.

Good heavens, and that’s only 3 lies. This can only get much worse.

These leftards are appalling!


I've been ignoring you karnal.
I gather you are not wondering why.

Since I'm a LWer and conservative by nature, I doubt I call all members of the Left leftards or think they are all appalling.

interesting no refutation about as usual.  Grin


There is nothing to refute.  You have not established even one lie in what Rudd said in that speech, and I have already posted my reasons.  I am not going to post them again.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #100 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:49pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
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Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
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I can't wait to get to 61, just think of the possibilities

Lie 61 (lie by ESP)
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #101 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 10:41pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:49pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
(lie  by inference)


Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin

I can't wait to get to 61, just think of the possibilities

Lie 61 (lie by ESP)


I,d just like to see 1 lie to start with , so far zilch, zip, nada
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #102 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 10:51pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:59pm:
So in actual fact, Grendel, Rudd has driven the economy into the ground, ruined our national security, utterly destroyed our country for generations to come, but he wants pointing this out to be illegal. Like Stalin or Mao.

Good heavens, and that’s only 3 lies. This can only get much worse.

These leftards are appalling!


I've been ignoring you karnal.
I gather you are not wondering why.

Since I'm a LWer and conservative by nature, I doubt I call all members of the Left leftards or think they are all appalling.

interesting no refutation about as usual.  Grin


I couldn’t refute your insight, Grendel. You probably ignore me because I’m not as smart as you.

These leftards are vile.
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #103 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 10:02am
 
scope wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 10:41pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 9:49pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
(lie  by inference)


Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin
Grin Grin Grin

I can't wait to get to 61, just think of the possibilities

Lie 61 (lie by ESP)


I,d just like to see 1 lie to start with , so far zilch, zip, nada


Well in order to "see" you'd need an open mind and then you can open your eyes...  if that doesn't work...  then getting an adult to explain things to you might help but them I'm thinking that might be beyond you.  Cheesy
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Re: Rudd's 61 lies by Grendal
Reply #104 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 10:04am
 
No refutation yet again...  gee I'm on a roll.
I'll give you guys a few more hours to get things in motion shall I?

4/4...
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